Re: [ldm-users] NWS official statement on the data outage of 2/13/2017

  • To: "Stonie R. Cooper" <stonewall@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ldm-users] NWS official statement on the data outage of 2/13/2017
  • From: admin@xxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 17:12:16 -0500 (EST)
Stonie is right on here. Another thing I find suspicious is that "Two routers 
failed simultaneously". The odds of that are next to impossible. More likely 
the routers responded improperly to an event.

Ray Weber
MA Skywarn

On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 4:37pm, "Stonie R. Cooper" 
<stonewall@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:

> I generally keep my comments off of this list, but the official
> statement is not accurate.  As you know, Gilbert, WRIP (NOAA Weather
> Radio) was only partially up and that was WFO dependent - if an WFO
> fired up their CRS, they could manually record hourly forecasts and
> observations.
> 
> Likewise, checking the tombstones via local forecast on weather.gov
> resulted in "N/A" for most zip codes I tried during the outage.
> 
>  From an IT side, I would say this particular event should help
> illustrate the foolhardy paradigm of "putting all your eggs in one
> basket."  HPC, NCEP, EMC . . . all were hit with this outage.  NWWS,
> EMWIN, and SBN were all down.  A primary and secondary router paradigm
> in the same physical location may save lots of money, but is an
> incredible liability for data distribution.
> 
> I have always advocated that a live secondary should be placed
> geographically distant from the primary uplink and NCF . . . and KC has
> legacy and national networking infrastructure already in place to make
> it a likely candidate.  Or Boulder, at ESRL.
> 
> Not that my comments will merit any action, but if pointing out what
> seems obvious to me gains traction, that would be great.  I would even
> start filling out my TPS cover sheets for all my memos, and coming in on
> over the weekend to work. ("Office Space" reference)
> 
> Stonie
> 
> On 02/14/2017 03:17 PM, Gilbert Sebenste wrote:
>> Here it is:
>>
>>
>>
>> NWS Statement on Cause of Outage on Feb. 13
>> Feb. 14, 2017
>>
>> The National Weather Service experienced a failure of its AWIPS Network
>> Control Facility communications network at 2:08 p.m. EST Feb 13.  The
>> outage, lasting two hours, 36 minutes, prevented us from fully
>> distributing forecasts and warnings. During the outage, the public was
>> able to access forecasts, watches and warnings by NOAA Weather Radio and
>> the social media accounts of their local forecast office.
>>
>> Technicians quickly determined the cause of the problem was the
>> simultaneous failure of two core communications routers - primary and
>> backup - for the control facility due to a power problem. The routers
>> were replaced and the system was restored to full service. We are still
>> investigating what caused the power outage.
>>
>> The AWIPS communications system is a very reliable configuration and
>> this is the first time both routers failed simultaneously.
>>
>> We are implementing additional communication pathways to the backup
>> Network Control Facility to ensure that problems encountered in
>> switching operations to this backup facility will not recur.
>>
>> ---
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gilbert Sebenste*
>>
>> Staff Meteorologist
>>
>>
>>
>> Environmental Health and Safety
>>
>> Labs for Wellness 154 | DeKalb, Illinois 60115
>>
>> 815-753-5492
>>
>> _gilbert@xxxxxxx <mailto:gilbert@xxxxxxx>_
>>
>> http://weather.admin.niu.edu <http://weather.admin.niu.edu/>
>>
>> Everyone. Home. Safely.
>>
>>
>>
>> NIU
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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