Re: [ldm-users] EMWF&CFSv2 0.5 degree

Hi Vittorio,

I have never been able to get many fields, even up to 168h. How do you get
the "almonds" up to 168h?

Christian

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 3:57 AM, Gensini, Vittorio <gensiniv@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Carissa,
>
>
> After more investigation, this looks just like a silly European limiting
> data issue.
>
>
> In short, the WMO Additional Dataset (the only one that seems to be
> flowing over NOAAport) has 13 variables and provides data at 24h timesteps
> to 168 hrs.  The WMO Public (available only through FTP as far as I can
> tell) has 5 variables at 24h timesteps to 240.
>
>
> So, you can take peanuts to 240h or the almonds to 168h.
>
>
> A sample of the public data following WMO format can be found here:
> ftp://data-portal.ecmwf.int/20170107120000/
>
>
> Probably no need to even try to add this to NOAAport as a simple directory
> clone via wget only takes a few seconds on a good internet connection...
>
> ​
>
> Best,
>
>
> __
> Dr. Vittorio (Victor) A. Gensini
> Associate Professor
> Meteorology
> College of DuPage
> President, Chicago Chapter of the American Meteorological Society
> 425 Fawell Blvd.
> Glen Ellyn, IL 60137
> Office: Berg Instructional Center (BIC) 3503
> ph: +1 (630) 942-3496 <+1%20630-942-3496>
> http://weather.cod.edu/~vgensini
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Carissa Klemmer - NOAA Federal <carissa.l.klemmer@xxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 9, 2017 8:59 AM
> *To:* Gensini, Vittorio
> *Cc:* ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: CFSv2 0.5 degree
>
> Hi Vittorio,
>
> Lets talk ECMWF first. We pull in the 2.5 deg from the GTS, and I agree I
> see strange behavior with the end of the forecast hours. They seem to jump
> from 168 to 240 -
>
> rec 974:2736756:date 2017010812 PRMSL kpds5=2 kpds6=1 kpds7=0 levels=(0,0)
> grid=11 sfc 168hr fcst:
> rec 977:2745297:date 2017010812 PRMSL kpds5=2 kpds6=1 kpds7=0 levels=(0,0)
> grid=2 sfc 168hr fcst:
> rec 979:2750991:date 2017010812 PRMSL kpds5=2 kpds6=1 kpds7=0 levels=(0,0)
> grid=2 sfc 240hr fcst:
> rec 987:2773767:date 2017010812 PRMSL kpds5=2 kpds6=1 kpds7=0 levels=(0,0)
> grid=1 sfc 240hr fcst:
>
> If you know the missing WMO headers we can request that they get added to
> NOAAPORT.
>
> Carissa Klemmer
> NCEP Central Operations
> Dataflow Team Lead
> 301-683-3835
>
> On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Gensini, Vittorio <gensiniv@xxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Carissa,
>>
>>
>> Happy new year!
>>
>>
>> I wanted to ping you again re: the 0.5 degree CFSv2 data.  Also,
>> something I just realized this morning...
>>
>>
>> Re: ECMWF grib1 data coming over the WMO/HDS feed...
>>
>>
>> I see multiple (3?) grids coming over HDS, but none of them have data for
>> forecast hour 240 (which should be the extent of the ECMWF public data).
>> They all truncate at forecast hour 168. It appears that a lot of the data
>> found here *is* on the feed, but there is also a bunch missing, especially
>> in re: to the ensemble fields.
>>
>>
>> ftp://data-portal.ecmwf.int/
>>
>>
>> Basically, same results using:
>>
>>
>> WMO     ^H..... ECMF ([0-3][0-9])([0-2][0-9])
>>         FILE    /home/data/models/ecmwf/(\1:yy)(\2:mm)\1\2_ecmwf.grb
>>
>> and...
>>
>>
>> HDS    grib/ecmwf/ECMWF_14./..../(..)(..)(....)(....)/F(...)
>>        FILE    /home/data/models/ecmwf/\2\3\4F\5.ecmwf
>>
>> The latter just matches more grids as I have a wildcard in after the
>> "_14". ​
>>
>>
>> Let me know if it is possible to get those fields over NOAAport, else I
>> will just script a download for forecast hour 240.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> __
>> Dr. Vittorio (Victor) A. Gensini
>> Associate Professor
>> Meteorology
>> College of DuPage
>> President, Chicago Chapter of the American Meteorological Society
>> 425 Fawell Blvd.
>> Glen Ellyn, IL 60137
>> Office: Berg Instructional Center (BIC) 3503
>> ph: +1 (630) 942-3496 <+1%20630-942-3496>
>> http://weather.cod.edu/~vgensini
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Gensini, Vittorio
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 28, 2016 8:00 AM
>> *To:* Carissa Klemmer - NOAA Federal
>> *Subject:* Re: CFSv2 0.5 degree
>>
>> Hi Carissa,
>>
>> That's not a problem. Thanks for touching base with me.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Vittorio (Victor) A. Gensini
>> Associate Professor
>> Meteorology
>> College of DuPage
>> 425 Fawell Blvd.
>> Glen Ellyn, IL 60137
>> Office: Berg Instructional Center 3503
>> ph: +1 (630) 942-3496 <+1%20630-942-3496>
>> http://weather.cod.edu/~vgensini
>>
>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 6:10 AM, Carissa Klemmer - NOAA Federal <
>> carissa.l.klemmer@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Victor,
>>
>> I've got a few high profile projects that have to wrap up by the end of
>> the year. Are there any objections if I please put this on my new year list
>> of requests to visit?
>>
>> Carissa Klemmer
>> NCEP Central Operations
>> Dataflow Team Lead
>> 301-683-3835
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Rebecca Cosgrove - NOAA Federal <
>> rebecca.cosgrove@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Victor.
>>> Let me pull in Carissa on this because she'll be better able to dive
>>> into what's possible with the CFS and NOMADS.  Carissa -- Victor is on the
>>> Unidata UserCommittee that I go to Boulder for.
>>>
>>> And you emailing me reminds me that we figured out the issue that you
>>> had reported to Unidata about a few of the RAP grids going funky in terms
>>> of feed type and I need to follow up and make the necessary change to put
>>> it back to the original feed type.  But Tom and Jeff wanted to warn you all
>>> before we made the change.
>>>
>>> Becky
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Gensini, Vittorio <gensiniv@xxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Becky!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope this e-mail finds you doing well.  Say, most of the 6-hrly
>>>> 3-D CFSv2 data (i.e., callibration climatologies, etc.) found here:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/data-access/model-data/model-datas
>>>> ets/climate-forecast-system-version2-cfsv2#CFSv2 Operational Forecasts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> have a lat/lon grid spacing of 0.5 degree (I think the actual native
>>>> model resoultion is even higher than that!).  I see only the 1.0 degree
>>>> data on NOMADS:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://nomads.ncep.noaa.gov/pub/data/nccf/com/cfs/prod/cfs/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any chance the 0.5 degree data is available anywhere in real time?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I see that the first link does have a delayed 0.5 degree feed here:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://nomads.ncdc.noaa.gov/modeldata/cfsv2_forecast_6-hourl
>>>> y_9mon_pgbf/2016/201611/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Finally, the NOMADS grib2 filters that do exist for the 1 degree data
>>>> are only available for member #1 of the 4 member CFSv2 ensemble:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://nomads.ncep.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/filter_cfs_pgb.pl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For example: http://nomads.ncep.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/filter_cfs_pgb.
>>>> pl?dir=%2Fcfs.20161111%2F12
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any chance that all 4 members can be added with the 0.5 degree
>>>> resolution?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This would *greatly* help for subseasonal forecasting efforts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know you are busy, but I really appreciate you taking the time to
>>>> read this!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> __
>>>> Dr. Vittorio (Victor) A. Gensini
>>>> Associate Professor
>>>> Meteorology
>>>> College of DuPage
>>>> President, Chicago Chapter of the American Meteorological Society
>>>> 425 Fawell Blvd.
>>>> Glen Ellyn, IL 60137
>>>> Office: Berg Instructional Center (BIC) 3503
>>>> ph: +1 (630) 942-3496
>>>> http://weather.cod.edu/~vgensini
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Carissa Klemmer
>> NCEP Central Operations
>> Dataflow Team Lead
>> 301-683-3835
>>
>>
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