Re: [netcdfgroup] what is status of netCDF3 vs netCDF4?

  • To: Mary Haley <haley@xxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [netcdfgroup] what is status of netCDF3 vs netCDF4?
  • From: Nick Papior Andersen <nickpapior@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 18:56:16 +0000
I can show how I use mine?
Maybe they are not complex enough, currently I do not need to go beyond 3
levels.

I have attached two CDL outputs. I will need 5 levels very soon, so if you
want that output when done I can supply if requested.



2014-11-06 17:31 GMT+00:00 Mary Haley <haley@xxxxxxxx>:

> We have the same issue as Tim, in that we haven't been able to find many
> good examples of NetCDF-4 for test purposes. We've been updating NCL to
> handle NetCDF-4 better, but need to get a better test suite in place for
> this.
>
> For example, I wanted to find a NetCDF-4 file with groups, but after
> googling for quite a while last night, I gave up.  I did find some in the
> NetCDF source tree, but these seem like toy examples, and I'm hoping to
> find something more "real world".
>
> --Mary
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Timothy Patterson <
> Timothy.Patterson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>> EUMETSAT plans to create netCDF-4 products for the upcoming MTG and
>> EPS-SG missions. We want to make use of the netCDF-4 enhanced features such
>> as groups, but we found very few examples of others using this format, let
>> alone the enhanced features. This slow uptake probably also explains the
>> lack of netCDF-4-ready tools. But with more users moving to netCDF-4 I
>> would expect there to be a bigger incentive to update tools to support it.
>> There is now a group looking to update the CF-Conventions to cover netCDF-4
>> so it does appear to be gaining acceptance.
>>
>> If anybody wants to start a netCDF-4 support group, I'd also be
>> interested in hearing  what problems other netCDF-4 users have encountered
>> and overcome and which tools they have found available.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tim Patterson
>> Consultant
>> EUMETSAT
>> Eumetsat-Allee 1
>> 6429 Darmstadt
>> Germany
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: netcdfgroup-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>> netcdfgroup-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cathy Smith (NOAA
>> Affiliate)
>> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 4:53 PM
>> To: netcdfgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [netcdfgroup] what is status of netCDF3 vs netCDF4?
>>
>> NetCDF'ers
>> We've changed many of our files from netCDF3 to netCDF4 both to take
>> advantage of internal packing but also because they work better in some
>> software (NCL). We have heard from users of problems reading the newer
>> format. Often they don't have their applications or netCDF library upgraded
>> to the latest versions but sometimes, software they relied on isn't
>> available for netCDF4. For example, EXCEL does not have a netCDF4 interface
>> and a package called "FAN" probably doesn't. Should we be assuming users
>> and software developers ought to be netCDF4 ready or is
>> netCDF4 more of a language for advanced users and there is no expectation
>> that users use it as opposed to netCDF3? Should unidata be facilitating the
>> update of packages to netCDF4? I'm thinking more of local software such as
>> on this page http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/netcdf/Contrib.html
>> but also packages like EXCEL.
>> We do suggest users can convert the files back to netCDF3 if possible but
>> there are downsides to that for the users.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Cathy Smith
>>
>>
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-- 
Kind regards Nick

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