Re: [thredds] TDS and HTTPS

Yes, an apache frontend is a more convenient way, also allows load-balancing of same URL between multiple instances.

We have multiple load balanced instances of a thredds service published in both (http and https). When a dataset requires authentication the challenge is made through https, and data access is coming back to http.

This is my test. My client and server are in the same side of the firewall

```bash
[antonio@ui ~]$ wget -O /dev/null http://www.meteo.unican.es/thredds/fileServer/VALUE/Renalysis/NCEP/NCEP_Z925.nc --2015-12-18 19:28:25-- http://www.meteo.unican.es/thredds/fileServer/VALUE/Renalysis/NCEP/NCEP_Z925.nc
Resolving www.meteo.unican.es... 193.144.202.238
Connecting to www.meteo.unican.es|193.144.202.238|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 680577496 (649M) [application/x-netcdf]
Saving to: “/dev/null”

100%[===============================================================================================================================>] 680,577,496 29.2M/s in 26s

2015-12-18 19:28:51 (25.1 MB/s) - “/dev/null” saved [680577496/680577496]

```bash
[antonio@ui ~]$ wget -O /dev/null https://www.meteo.unican.es/thredds/fileServer/VALUE/Renalysis/NCEP/NCEP_Z925.nc --2015-12-18 19:29:19-- https://www.meteo.unican.es/thredds/fileServer/VALUE/Renalysis/NCEP/NCEP_Z925.nc
Resolving www.meteo.unican.es... 193.144.202.238
Connecting to www.meteo.unican.es|193.144.202.238|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 680577496 (649M) [application/x-netcdf]
Saving to: “/dev/null”

100%[===============================================================================================================================>] 680,577,496 15.0M/s in 43s

2015-12-18 19:30:02 (15.2 MB/s) - “/dev/null” saved [680577496/680577496]
```

Please, feel free to test the above URLs. If somebody is using them, please report me the result, because we are having some issues with firewall-bandwith controller.

Antonio



El 18/12/2015 a las 18:56, John Caron escribió:
I agree, an Apache front end is a simple and standard thing to do.

AFAIU, the user still is using SSL encryption, its just that Apache is doing that instead of Tomcat. So it would be good for any of us to make some measurements comparing large binary data transfers.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 10:42 AM, James Gallagher <jgallagher@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jgallagher@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:


    On Dec 18, 2015, at 9:06 AM, Steve Ansari - NOAA Federal
    <steve.ansari@xxxxxxxx <mailto:steve.ansari@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    Sure - I'll follow up offline.

    Steve


    On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal
    <roy.mendelssohn@xxxxxxxx <mailto:roy.mendelssohn@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        Hi Steve

        I was hoping that would work.  That any proxying, whether AJP
        or other, would be hidden.  I have had problems in the past
        getting AJP proxying to work, if I need to do that.  Can  you
        send me (offline) the part of you httpd.conf where you proxy
        over to tomcat using AJP?


    We have had good success using Apache & AJP. Apache as a front end
    provides a number of options, particularly WRT authentication and
    this might provide for a compromise should HTTPS be too much of a
    bottle neck. I have not tested the impact of HTTPS compared to
    HTTP (it would be easy enough to do using simple file transfers).

    James


        Thanks,

        -Roy

        > On Dec 18, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Steve Ansari - NOAA Federal
        <steve.ansari@xxxxxxxx <mailto:steve.ansari@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
        >
        > Hey Roy,
        >
        > We are using Apache to handle all the HTTPS stuff.  Apache
        then forwards requests to Tomcat and TDS using AJP.
        > https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/ajp.html
        >
        > Our TDS:
        > https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/thredds/catalog.html
        >
        >
        > Steve
        >
        >
        > On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA
        Federal <roy.mendelssohn@xxxxxxxx
        <mailto:roy.mendelssohn@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
        > Hi All:
        >
        > As I hope you know, the Federal government is required to
        migrate to https for all services in the next1.5 years.  My
        question is can the TDS work with https? If so, can you point
        me to any documents or what changes, if any, need to be made
        to use https. If not, are there plans to incorporate this
        ability into TDS?
        >
        > Thanks,
        >
        > -Roy
        >
        >
        >
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