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[Support #SBB-325304]: Re: 20110712: CONDUIT request -- fire weather grids

Hi Becky,

re:
> There is a lot of good information in your email.  Thanks for the
> careful analysis.

I try :-)

re:
> While we had ldm2 pulled out of the pool I was going
> to move on to some of the other additions I've committed to making, but
> I'll have to review the list in light of some of this information.

Can you give me an idea of the other things you were considering adding?

re:
> As far as where we go from here for the fire weather, I think from a
> technical standpoint, we would be ready to implement this into
> operations.

Excellent!

re:
> Technically the fire weather products are still
> "experimental" or some such label until September 20th, but we had said
> we'd get them out as soon as we were ready.

Experimental vs operational is not a big issue for the Unidata community.
In fact, one of the standing requests from a long-time CONDUIT user is
for a parallel version of RTMA grids.

re:
> So I think the only
> remaining issue is your point about the potential impact to the user
> community of the added volume.  How do you want to address that
> concern?

I will get together with Linda to discuss this on Monday (she is out
today).  I think that we (Unidata) need to send a note to the CONDUIT
community (via the address@hidden and address@hidden
email lists) explaining a proposal to add the fire weather products to
the datastream.  This email needs to address:

- why the products are useful/important

  Can you write a little blurb that covers this?

- what the impact will be for those who want to continue to drink the
  entire firehose of data

- what steps can be taken to mitigate the local impact of the addition
  of the data (e.g., noting that a site can request everything except
  the fire weather products, etc.)

- a target timeframe for the addition of the products if there is
  general approval in the community

- some idea of where CONDUIT is heading

  What I have in mind here is information on new, beefier top level
  relay machines that will eventually be installed at the WOCs;
  perhaps a list of additional products that will be added at
  some time; a piece that looks down the road at things like
  0.25 degree global GFS, etc.

re:
> Do we need to poll them somehow, or just send a notification
> saying this is going to happen and will be a big volume, and here's how
> you opt out?

I think we need buy-in.  Given that sites can chose to not receive the
added data, this shouldn't be has hard as it might seem.

BTW, the other impact will be on the toplevel CONDUIT relay nodes.  They
will be wanting to relay the data, so I will need to make sure that they
understand the impacts.  What I have in mind is a "personal" note to each
toplevel IDD administrator that reviews the sorts of things I sent you
and Justin yesterday.

re:
> But as I said, from a technical point, I think we just
> have to file paperwork and get approval.  In theory, Justin could write
> up something in time for our Tuesday COB deadline which would let us
> implement the week of September 5th.

This may be too quick for the university community.  We will know more
when get some feedback from them.  Again, I will meet with Linda on
Monday to discuss the way forward here in Unidata.

re:
> So let us know what you think about the customer support part of this.

Will do.

re:
> Thanks!

No worries.

Cheers,

Tom
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Ticket Details
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Ticket ID: SBB-325304
Department: Support CONDUIT
Priority: Normal
Status: Closed