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[IDD #VRK-635010]: idd data



Hi Marck,

re: which datastreams do you want to REQUEST from upstream IDD nodes?
> The most important one is Forecast Model Output, followed by textual weather 
> bulletins
> and satellite data.  Mainly for the Caribbean area.

OK.  The volumes of the various datastreams that could be involved vary from
very modest (global textual observations, IDD IDS|DDPLUS datastream), to 
intermediate (satellite imagery; IDD datastreams UNIWISC and NIMAGE) to
potentially very high (moderate, IDD HRS datasteam; intermediate to
high IDD NGRID datastream; very high IDD CONDUIT datastream).  To get
an idea of the volumes of data in the various datastreams that compose
the IDD flow, please review the following snapshot from one of the
cluster nodes that comprises the toplevel IDD relay that we operate
in UCAR:

Data Volume Summary for uni16.unidata.ucar.edu

Maximum hourly volume  24822.986 M bytes/hour
Average hourly volume  15602.857 M bytes/hour

Average products per hour     318834 prods/hour

Feed                           Average             Maximum     Products
                     (M byte/hour)            (M byte/hour)   number/hour
NEXRAD2                5692.283    [ 36.482%]     7967.348    64686.698
CONDUIT                3298.325    [ 21.139%]     6063.057    71513.628
NEXRAD3                1967.077    [ 12.607%]     2587.342    89026.023
FSL2                   1506.577    [  9.656%]     1717.147     1673.047
FNMOC                  1182.267    [  7.577%]     6358.167     3800.674
NGRID                  1145.089    [  7.339%]     2132.688    20600.116
HDS                     335.027    [  2.147%]      609.231    17521.488
NIMAGE                  173.934    [  1.115%]      329.983      205.814
FNEXRAD                  87.234    [  0.559%]      107.327       70.674
GEM                      86.949    [  0.557%]      371.783     1000.326
IDS|DDPLUS               51.098    [  0.327%]       64.253    47988.744
EXP                      45.649    [  0.293%]       91.147      370.860
UNIWISC                  21.039    [  0.135%]       31.514       21.116
LIGHTNING                 6.924    [  0.044%]       11.767      349.209
DIFAX                     3.320    [  0.021%]       12.619        4.814
GPS                       0.066    [  0.000%]        0.071        0.977

re: what is your network bandwidth
> Our speed is 10 mbps

OK, but how much of that is already in full, continuous use?  I can
safely say that this pipe will _not_ allow you to receive much of
the very high volume CONDUIT datastream.

re:
> We are familiar with linux (centos/fedora/opensuse.

Very good.  We have been a RedHat shop pretty much for our entire involvement
with Linux.  We run Fedora releases on most machines, but have begun to
deploy more CentOS machines to better match what is increasingly a "standard"
configuration in the Unidata community.

re:
> Regarding the forward and reverse DNS, I can inform you that the way the unix 
> box is
> setup dns is configured to use our isp dns. As is the case with NOAA's ssl 
> vpn our
> static ip is 206.48.100.225.

OK.  There is no reverse DNS (IP -> name) for the static IP you list:

% nslookup 206.48.100.225
Server:         192.168.72.2
Address:        192.168.72.2#53

** server can't find 225.100.48.206.in-addr.arpa.: NXDOMAIN

What is the IP address of the machine you would run the LDM on (my
impression is it would be different from 206.48.100.225)?

re:
> We do receive also WIFS (former wafs) and GIFS (former wmo gts) from NOAA.
> But these have limited model data.

OK.

re:
> We got interested in IDD when installing Gempak from your site. We are 
> running wrf and
> using gempak to display the data.

Very good.

We are willing to help find an upstream site to feed you the data you
want (and are able to receive given your current bandwidth).  Before
contacting Unidata sites to see who would be willing to help, we need
to do as much investigating on bandwidth, DNS issues, etc. as possible
(to alleviate extra work by the site).  One thing that makes extra
work for an upstream is having to modify their LDM configuration to
ALLOW feed REQUESTs by machine(s) that do not have forward and reverse
DNS.  The two ways of adding the needed ALLOW (by hardwiring a name
for an IP in one's /etc/host file, or by adding an ALLOW by IP address)
are both brittle, so sites are reluctant to accept the likely ongoing
configuration responsibilities involved.

Another question:

- are you assigned static IPs by your ISP?

  You mentioned that you have a static IP for the machine you are using
  for NOAA's SSL VPN, but I do not know if the machine that has this
  IP is the one that you would like to use to receive IDD traffic.

Cheers,

Tom
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Ticket Details
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Ticket ID: VRK-635010
Department: Support IDD
Priority: Normal
Status: Closed