Hmmm, we probably could, or maybe we do, I'm not sure how it's
implemented. Tom Kunicki implemented it, and he's not with CIDA anymore.
I'll look into it. We may just add the lat/lon as a union and not worry
about it, but the guys at EROS were curious if it could be added like
they do with Hyrax, automatically.
- Dave
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:07 AM, John Caron <address@hidden
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Sort of.
1. Can your Geo Data Portal software open the opendap dataset
through netcdf-java?
2. Is this your server, so you can configure it ?
On 8/14/2013 9:35 AM, Blodgett, David wrote:
Our Geo Data Portal software that takes OPeNDAP-sourced
NetCDF-CF (ish)
data and intersects it with some shapefile encoded as GML-Simple
Features.
I think what we're after is the functionality that Hyrax implemented
where they add the lat/lon coordinates to bring the OPeNDAP
representation into CF-compliant land.
That make sense?
- Dave
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what is the use case?
On 8/13/2013 8:47 PM, Blodgett, David wrote:
Right, ok, that's what I understood. So we would need
to join
the x/y
coordinates of 2D lat/lon arrays to the data so an OPeNDAP
client could
work with it?
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geolocation is working ok in 4.3.18.
however, TDS opendap doesnt add the coordinate
system info
automatically, typically its added in the client
if its a
netcdf-java client.
ie, open it through NetcdfDataset.open("dods url").
On 8/13/2013 4:55 PM, Blodgett, David wrote:
Not sure if you need a time series, but here are a
couple time
steps for
the same tile.
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send me some files
On 8/13/2013 4:18 PM, Blodgett, David wrote:
John, the LPDAAC got a bunch of HDF
EOS data
up behind
THREDDS.
For some
reason I thought that it would add
coordinate
variables
to the
data when
accessed via OPeNDAP. Looks like we
are good
to go with
WCS and
WMS, but
we still need coordinate variables
for direct
OPeNDAP
access.
Any ideas
of a quick way to add them?
Thanks!
Dave
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hope so.
note that the
dateFormatMark="MOD13Q1.A#__________yyyyDDD" is
just counting
chars, then applying the java
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the date
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David wrote:
Ahhh, so the "/" in the
variable name
will work to
represent
groups. I
didn't want to believe that
would
work, glad
it will.
Thanks!
- Dave
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ok, enhance actually
already
works, but i
ran into
another
problem
with joinExisting.
So I retreated to
joinNew using
the kludge of
extracting
the date
from the filename.
this only works if the
filenames
are uniform:
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encoding='UTF-8'?>
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dimName='time'
type='joinNew'>
<variableAgg
name='MODIS_Grid_16DAY_250m___________500m_VI/Data_Fields/__250m___16_______days_NDVI'
/>
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location='G:/work/blodgett/'
suffix='.hdf'
subdirs='false'
dateFormatMark="MOD13Q1.A#__________yyyyDDD"/>
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</netcdf>
you also have to list the
variables you want
aggregated
explicitly;
i only did one, you can
add the
others:
<variableAgg
name='MODIS_Grid_16DAY_250m___________500m_VI/Data_Fields/__250m___16_______days_NDVI'
/>
this form should work
with the
4.3.16
release.
let me know if this is
adequate
for you
for now,
and any
problems.
john
ps: use this as reference:
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wrote:
>
> Hi David:
>
> I had a look at this
again. I changed
HdfEosModisConvention
to use a
> 1D instead of a
scalar time
coordinate.
>
> However,
joinExisting
isnt working
because the
dataset needs
to be
> "enhanced" (with
HdfEosModisConvention) first,
before the time
> coordinate is
available.
Currently
joinExisting
aggregation
doesnt
> do that.
>
> I can probably
hack that in.
Really I want
to get
the GRID
feature
> collection
working, but thats
going to be a
few months.
Aggregation
> is old and crufty.
>
> Anyway, Ill let
you know
if i can get
"enhanced"
working.
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> On 3/20/2013
7:50 AM,
Blodgett,
David wrote:
>
> Morning John,
>
> I pulled
down the latest
thredds war
and have been
testing a few
> things
> out. Did you
get temporal
aggregation
working on the
structured
> data at
> all? Any
hints on how to
structure the
ncml for
that?
>
> Looks like the
spatial stuff is
working. Fantastic.
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Dave
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar
4, 2013
at 9:07 AM,
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>
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> OK,
we'll keep
an eye out
for the
release,
thanks so
much John!
>
> No
worries on the
aggregation, the
tiles
are big enough
> that I think
> we can
deal without
aggregation.
>
>
> On Mon,
Mar 4,
2013 at
8:43 AM,
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> On
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12:03 PM,
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wrote:
>
>
John,
>
>
Really
happy you
added
this stuff
in, what's
your
> plan for
>
releasing it?
>
>
>
going to try to
release 4.3.16
in next
week or two.
>
>
>
> You
think there's any
chance that tiled
aggregation
> will work?
>
>
> im
reluctant
to recommend
using whats there
currently.
> But doing
> it
right is a
challenge and
wont be
done soon.
>
>
>
>
>
- Dave
>
>
>
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