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Hi Aleksandar, Firstly, I would like to thank you for preparing this list of proposed standard names and units. As you know, we at EUMETSAT are keen to develop CF satellite standard name and unit conventions for our netCDF data sets and for GSICS products so it would be interesting for us to see how your proposal to a 'difficult' process develops ('difficult' as there are strong opinions to what units (& names) to use although I think this is not a problem if unit conversion libraries are available. Units can be easily converted from one to another to suit the opinion of the user.). I sent the proposal to my EUMETSAT colleagues and the following comments have been compile from feedback received (so don't shoot the messenger ;o) --------------- For the following standard name, should the units be set to 1 since it does not have Canonical units? :standard_name="sensor_band_identifier" :units=1 --------------- The unit of radiance is a difficult one to defined as the SI version is not easy to work with. The one defined in the proposal is the most usable for the users even though it is not SI. Units definition should take usability into consideration. --------------- platform_zenith_angle & sensor_zenith_angle could be changed to be more generic by: :standard_name="platform_look_angle" :standard_name="sensor_look_angle This is because for side looking instruments without scanning mechanism (e.g. scatterometers and SARs) this angle is also relevant and this field could be used too, but it doesn't make sense in those cases to talk about 'scan'. Instead, 'look' is more generic The variable comment attribute could be added to provide more information if needed. Aleksandar, this suggestion was from Julie Figa and she said Hi. --------------- Another observation was made for platform_zenith_angle & sensor_zenith_angle. The platform_zenith_angle (units=degree) is already in the CF convention (this was also observed by Mike Grant; cf-satellite Digest, Vol 25, Issue 4). However, this is not the best name for the instruments' scan angle but the CF convention also includes zenith_angle and angle_of_incidence. It is suggested that this sufficient. Do we need sensor_zenith_angle as this may be described by the Angle-of-incidence ? --------------- We would like to add the following to your proposal to the CF: :standard_name="spectral_toa_irradiance" :units="mW m-2 sr-1 (cm-1)-1" Description - TOA irradiance which is relevant for any sensor measuring in the UV-VIS and NIR. The standard convention is to have this parameter reported by integrating over the whole sphere which then makes the only change to TOA radiance that it is not sr-1. ==== :standard_name="atmosphere_reflectivity_ratio" :unit="2*pi / (cos(SZA)) * I/I0" Description - Ratio of radiance to irradiance I/I0, reflection from a thick layer where the layer, here the atmosphere, is part of the reflection's property. ----- Note, the standard names proposed at the end of the page are GSICS related that have been work with & adopted by EUMETSAT and the other GSICS partners. This should be made clear that a wider community have agreed on these proposed names & units which could help with their acceptance. Regards, Peter Miu Data Services Operations Engineer EUMETSAT EUMETSAT Allee 1 64295 Darmstadt Germany Tel: +49 6151 807 3290 Fax: +49 6151 807 7410 Email: peter.miu@xxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.eumetsat.int Follow EUMETSAT on Twitter https://twitter.com/@eumetsat_users Ordering Data from EUMETSAT https://eoportal.eumetsat.int/ -----Original Message----- From: cf-satellite-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cf-satellite-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of cf-satellite-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:00 PM To: cf-satellite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: cf-satellite Digest, Vol 25, Issue 3 Send cf-satellite mailing list submissions to cf-satellite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.unidata.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/cf-satellite or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cf-satellite-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx You can reach the person managing the list at cf-satellite-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of cf-satellite digest..." Today's Topics: 1. New Standard Names for Satellite Data (Aleksandar Jelenak) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 13:00:40 -0400 From: Aleksandar Jelenak <aleksandar.jelenak@xxxxxxxx> To: cf-satellite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [cf-satellite] New Standard Names for Satellite Data Message-ID: <CAAth-n96MOa0hmUbVUbsp8nuK9KatC2JyBqfH6t1hYHmLh4Xww@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Dear CF-Satellite Community: I am soliciting your comments about the 23 new standard names given here: http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Standard_Names_For_Satellite_Observations The names were developed by Ed Armstrong from JPL PO.DAAC and me according to the official CF convention guidelines. The proposed standard names are a mix of basic names applicable to Level 1 or 2 (SDR or EDR) data, and specific ones relevant to the satellite instrument inter-calibration data. I propose we adopt the two-week rule for comments. Not having comments for two weeks indicates that we as a community have agreed on these names. I will then submit them on the cf-metadata mailing list for official acceptance. -Aleksandar ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ cf-satellite mailing list cf-satellite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list information or to unsubscribe, visit: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/mailing_lists/ End of cf-satellite Digest, Vol 25, Issue 3 *******************************************
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