Re: question about motherload download (fwd)

• To: Ben Domenico <ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Jennifer Boehnert <boehnert@xxxxxxxx>, Jack Settelmaier <Jack.Settelmaier@xxxxxxxx>, THREDDS Development List <thredds-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
• Subject: Re: question about motherload download (fwd)
• From: Steve Chiswell <chiz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
• Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:18:12 -0600 (MDT)

On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 13:06 -0600, Robb Kambic wrote:

Chiz,

do you know why i'm not receiving the 3-90 forecast for NDFD? here' my pqact 
entry:

NPORT   ^[LM].U... KWBN ([0-3][0-9])([0-2][0-9])([0-6][0-9])
        FILE
data/pub/native/grid/NCEP/NDFD/CONUS_5km/NDFD_CONUS_5km_(\1:yyyy)(\1:mm)\1_\200.grib2

The NOAAPORT data only provides NDFD for F090-F180. This comprises days 4 
through 7 as noted in the initial admin notice: 
http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/support/help/MailArchives/nws-changes-list/msg02641.html

since the 2nd, 4-5 chars in the pattern are dots, i thought i should receive. i 
get the 90-180 hours.

also do you why the large range of file sizes for same model run hour 12? it's  
18-28 megs.

Parts of the data are rebroadcast later in the day as needed. You can update 
the grid received each time. For example the maximum temperature grids over the 
past three days:

[98517] 060823/0745[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060823/1200F108] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[98517] 060823/0746[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060823/1200F132] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[98517] 060823/0748[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060823/1200F156] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[98517] 060823/0748[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060823/1200F180] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[16354] 060823/1247[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060823/1200F108] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[16354] 060823/1249[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060823/1200F132] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[16354] 060823/1250[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060823/1200F156] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[16354] 060823/1251[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060823/1200F180] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689


[47159] 060822/0817[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060822/1200F108] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[47159] 060822/0818[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060822/1200F132] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[47159] 060822/0819[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060822/1200F156] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[47159] 060822/0821[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060822/1200F180] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[58117] 060822/1248[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060822/1200F108] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[58117] 060822/1249[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060822/1200F132] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[58117] 060822/1250[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060822/1200F156] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[58117] 060822/1252[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060822/1200F180] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689

[84691] 060821/0815[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F108] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[84691] 060821/0816[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F132] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[84691] 060821/0817[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F156] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[84691] 060821/0819[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F180] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[2745] 060821/0846[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F108] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[2745] 060821/0847[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F132] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[2745] 060821/0848[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F156] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[2745] 060821/0849[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F180] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[96889] 060821/1248[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F132] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[96889] 060821/1249[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F156] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[96889] 060821/1250[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F180] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689

Note that on 8.21 the TMXK grids for F108, F132, F156 and F180 were sent the 
extra time 0846 LDT as compared to the 8.22 and 8.23.

Steve Chiswell
Unidata User Support

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 20:45:00 -0600
From: Ben Domenico <bendomenico@xxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: Ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: Jennifer Boehnert <boehnert@xxxxxxxx>
Cc: Jack Settelmaier <Jack.Settelmaier@xxxxxxxx>,
     THREDDS Development List <thredds-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: question about motherload download

Hi Jennifer and Jack,

I don' t know much about how we bring in the NDFD data or how it should be 
structured.  I'll forward this to the THREDDS group who maintain the motherlode 
server.

-- Ben

On 8/22/06, Jennifer Boehnert <boehnert@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Ben,
Jack Settelmaier had some questions about motherload's netCDFserver.  He was 
asking where the forecast for hours 3- 90 were for the NDFD conus_5km there are 
only forecasts for 90 - 180.

Also why the file sizes were all different for the different grib files.  For 
example : NDF_Conus_5km_20060822_1200.grib2 was 8.963 
NDF_Conus_5km_20060821_1200.grib2 was 28.11 could there be a download issue on 
your receiving end?

Jack if I have misunderstood your questions please let Ben know.
 Thanks Jennifer

--
Jennifer Boehnert
GIS Coordinator
RAL/ISSE
National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, CO