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Pshaw!!! How clumsy of me.
Certainly, the WMS interface would be among the best for direct
demonstration purposes.
If we venture outside the OGC services world, it might be interesting to get
a copy of our Unidata Local Data Manager running. In that case, we could
stream several GB/hour of real-time weather data to the server. Somewhat
surprisingly with about 400 LDM nodes in our real-time Internet Data
Distribution (IDD) system, I don't think we have any IDD nodes in Australia.
The LDM package
http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/ldm/<http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/ldm/>
is also open source. The current operational status of our IDD is at:
http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/idd/rtstats/
That might be interesting. But it's all underlying infrastructure that just
works. The trick is properly to demonstrate what's going on underneath it
all.
-- Ben
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Jon Blower <j.d.blower@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Hi Ben,
>
> Perhaps you (or someone else) could identify some key datasets that
> could be installed along with TDS on the CCIP machines? Perhaps some
> climatologies or weather forecasts? I know that CCIP has something of
> an Australian focus (since FOSS4G is in Oz this year) and that TDS is
> popular in Australia. The CCIP guys are particularly looking for
> freely-available data that could be licensed under Creative Commons or
> something similar.
>
> Also, don't forget that TDS now has a WMS interface too! ;-)
>
> Cheers, Jon
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Ben Domenico <Ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > Hi George,
> > If I understand your suggestion, something like our THREDDS Data Server
> > which includes a WCS interface to many different types of environmental
> data
> > would be appropriate.
> > The TDS homepage is at:
> > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/projects/THREDDS/tech/TDS.html
> >
> > We have our own prototype TDS at Unidata serving a wide variety of
> real-time
> > weather data. The html interface is at:
> > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/projects/THREDDS/tech/TDS.html
> >
> > There is another TDS at the NOAA Pacific Fisheries Lab:
> > http://oceanwatch.pfeg.noaa.gov/thredds/catalog.html
> >
> > and another at the US National Climatic Data Center:
> > http://nomads.ncdc.noaa.gov/thredds/catalog.html
> >
> > There are quite a few other, but those should provide a sense of what's
> > available and what can be done with the TDS and what can and can't be
> done
> > with WCS(yet). These servers illustrate the type of data and services we
> > are attempting to provide via OGC interfaces. We've made progress in the
> > limited set that can be served via WCS. And the proposed CF-netCDF
> > extension to WCS is a big step in that direction.
> > Even so, I'm not sure what it would mean to participate in CCIP. It
> would
> > be possible to implement a TDS on the CCIP server, but none of our
> datasets
> > are there so that doesn't make sense. And travel expenses are always an
> > issue in terms of participating in the meetings themselves to demonstrate
> > clients using TDS servers.
> > -- Ben
> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:00 AM, George Percivall
> > <gpercivall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ben,
> >> OSGeo and OGC have a complimentary and productive relationship based
> upon
> >> an MOU between the two organizations.
> >> A great example of the collaboration is at the next FOSS4G run by
> OSGeo,
> >> OGC will be leading a Climate Change Integration Plugfest (CCIP). The
> CCIP
> >> will demonstrate standards based interoperability between geospatial
> >> applications based on a Climate Change scenario.
> >> http://www.osgeo.org/news/2009/01/FOSS4G_Integration
> >> http://www.opengeospatial.org/pressroom/pressreleases/951
> >>
> >> The GALEON community could interact with OSGeo in many ways here are a
> >> couple of suggestions:
> >> 1) participate in the CCIP.
> >> 2) identify an open-source project that implements OGC standards, e.g.,
> >> WCS, as an OSGeo Project. OSGeo has a process and resources for
> >> community development of open-source geospatial software. There are
> several
> >> examples of OSGeo projects implementing OGC specifications.
> >> OSGeo projects implementing OGC specifications has been successful in
> the
> >> past and it may be appropriate in the GALEON context.
> >>
> >>
> >> Relevant to this is the motion approved at the OGC meeting this month:
> >> "Web Coverage Service Standards Working Group release of NetCDF
> extension"
> >> The OGC Members approved release of 09-018 Web Coverage Service (WCS)
> >> extension for CF-netCDF encoding, 1.0 as an OGC Discussion Paper
> >> • This extension of the WCS standard specifies an Information Community
> >> data model with the related encoding that may optionally be implemented
> by
> >> WCS servers. This extension enables clients to evaluate, request and use
> >> data encoded in CF-netCDF3 format from a WCS server.
> >> Document 09-018 is posted here:
> >> http://portal.opengeospatial.org/files/?artifact_id=32195
> >> Regards,
> >> George
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 13, 2009, at 7:18 PM, Gerry Creager wrote:
> >>
> >> I certainly believe the GALEON community would benefit, and that the
> >> FOSS4G community would, as well. I suspect a similar statement can be
> made
> >> with THREDDS, as well.
> >>
> >> The main limitation of GDAL for NetCDF is based in the lack of requests
> to
> >> extend the support, and the potential to fund said updates when critiacl
> >> mass is finally achieved.
> >>
> >> I didn't get to attend the last OGC TC, but I suspect there were plenty
> of
> >> other FOSS4G advocates there.
> >>
> >> I was involved in some of the original FOSS4G organizational efforts but
> >> didn't have the time to allow me to participate to any great extent.
> That
> >> said, it appears to be a good organization with a lot of potential to
> >> support and nurture projects.
> >>
> >> Unidata, however, is also nurturing THREDDS. There's likely be a little
> >> friction, but I strongly suspect that once the initial "dancing" is
> done,
> >> the benefits to both communities would be visible.
> >>
> >> gerry
> >>
> >> Roy Mendelssohn wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Ben:
> >>
> >> I do not know about FOSS4G per se, but the major sponsor of it appears
> to
> >> be OSGeo (http://www.osgeo.org/). They are responsible for Mapserver
> and
> >> Geotools and most importantly GDAL. GDAL is a nice tool for converting
> >> between formats, and supports Netcdf and OpeNDAP, at least partially (I
> >> can't remember if it is limited in dimensions with netcdf), and provides
> the
> >> conversion for Mapserver. Conversations about supporting netcdf4 or
> >> related things would strike me as valuable.
> >>
> >> -Roy
> >>
> >> On Apr 13, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Ben Domenico wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi again,
> >>
> >> Periodically, I get a suggestion that GALEON and THREDDS would be good
> >> candidates for participation in the Free and Open Source Software for
> >> Geospatial (FOSS4G) movement, initiative, project, community, or
> whatever it
> >> is. I briefly looked into it one time earlier
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://sites.google.com/site/galeonteam/Home/GALEON%20Phase2%20Main%20Page/Unidata%20OGC%20Interoperability%20Day%20Presentations
> >>
> >> but it came up at the recent OGC TC again.
> >>
> >> Do any of you have any experience with, thoughts on, or suggestions
> >> regarding whether participating in FOSS4G would indeed be an effective
> >> approach to furthering our particular -- implementation-oriented
> approach to
> >> interoperability?
> >>
> >> -- Ben
> >>
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