Karen just stated it all pretty well. My affiliation isn't what this is
about. I spent a long time, before I came to OU, and started working with
the lab, working with LDM systems. The data I'm getting for our research
effort (non-operational) comes from Unidata and Texas A&M, and the Unidata
stats are what I look at, especially if we see what we perceive as delays.
Our scripts will slow down if things are delayed too much, so I'd see that,
but I do not, any longer spend a lot of time checking latencies.
I'm also confused with what Blair's reporting. I'd like to have time to
look into it and may find some later this week, but doing that aspect of
troubleshooting unrelated to our program isn't in my work-plan anymore.
It'll have to happen some evening, if it does at all, and my evenings are
pretty full still.
And finally, a couple of things: Robert, I don't think you were dissing the
Lab, and if I gave the impression the Lab had anything to do with max
latencies, I was very wrong. My comments, as they've been for years, are my
own, and what I have been seeing is data coming from .edu sources,
primarily Texas A&M (who get their primary data from IRADS) and Unidata. My
feed actually goes to an ou.edu machine for the research we're doing, so in
a lot of ways, it's .edu all the way. I'm just surprised Blair's seeing the
problem.
Now I'll back away before I get in any more trouble!
gerry
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Karen Cooper - NOAA Affiliate <
karen.cooper@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Robert, I didn't read it as dissing NSSL. I'm not upset at all, just very
> confused as to what Blair is seeing, since it's so different from what I'm
> seeing with my LDM feed.
>
> I would like to help him out if I can, and would really like to see some
> captures of ldmadmin watch and/or a notifyme run against his queue.
>
> Also, IRADS is .edu, and in my experience, LDM is so efficient that a 20
> second max latency is not really a big deal.
>
> Lastly, anything I've said is strictly my opinion and based on my
> experience, it should not be seen as an opinion of NSSL or NOAA.
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Robert Mullenax <
> Robert.Mullenax@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I am not dissing NSSL at all. I just thought that since Blaire
>> was at a dot com address that there might be a better routing for him. If
>> NSSL says that anyone that is somehow allowed access regardless of .com or
>> .edu staus can get 20 second max latency then I am surely dropping out of
>> this conversation.
>>
>> It's all pretty confusing since Unidata has always distanced themselves
>> from anything operational..and it surely is a participant in the Level II
>> feed.
>>
>> Getting back out of this hornet's nest..
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Karen Cooper - NOAA Affiliate
>> [mailto:karen.cooper@xxxxxxxx<karen.cooper@xxxxxxxx>
>> ]
>> Sent: Sun 5/18/2014 9:51 PM
>> To: Robert Mullenax
>> Cc: daryl herzmann; Blair Trosper; LDM Users
>> Subject: Re: [ldm-users] NEXRAD2/NEXRAD3 lag?
>>
>> I also just checked the IRADS data monitoring page. Only members have
>> access to it, but it keeps an avg. and max latency for the Level II data .
>> Scanning the monitoring page the maximum latencies I see at IRADS is less
>> than 20 seconds, and in most cases, less than 5 seconds.
>>
>> I can tell you at NSSL, we are very sensitive to latencies and would be
>> well aware of 10 minute latencies in our realtime WDSSII system.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Robert Mullenax <
>> Robert.Mullenax@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> > Isn't the shear volume if data in the Level 2 feed make it immune to
>> > anyone in the Unidata IDD complaining about a 10 minute lag? Aren't
>> their
>> > commercial providers of Level 2 that have a more direct feed?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: ldm-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of daryl herzmann
>> > Sent: Sun 5/18/2014 9:03 PM
>> > To: Blair Trosper
>> > Cc: LDM Users
>> > Subject: Re: [ldm-users] NEXRAD2/NEXRAD3 lag?
>> >
>> > On Sun, 18 May 2014, Blair Trosper wrote:
>> >
>> > > Daryl @ IAState.edu would be one of the other ones who's noticed this
>> off
>> > > the top of my head. Maybe he could chime in from two or so weeks ago
>> > when
>> > > this first started.
>> >
>> > Hmmm, do you read the emails that I write you? Here is my last one
>> again
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/mailing_lists/archives/ldm-users/2014/msg00059.html
>> >
>> >
>> > daryl
>> >
>> > --
>> > /**
>> > * Daryl Herzmann
>> > * Assistant Scientist -- Iowa Environmental Mesonet
>> > * http://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu
>> > */
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