Re: [ldm-users] 20151028: 20151028: Pqact FILE writes with custom removal?

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  • Subject: Re: [ldm-users] 20151028: 20151028: Pqact FILE writes with custom removal?
  • From: Neil Smith <n-smith2@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 10:57:38 -0500
Donna,
Yours is zfs on centos 6.x or 7.x?

Neil

On Oct 28, 2015, at 3:22 PM, Donna Cote <d-cote@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Tom,
> 
> We moved our storage LDM system to zfs (on the storage disks, I don't think 
> the system filesystems changed) after experiencing problems with scour on xfs.
> 
> When using xfs, we saw the load average regularly rise to 50, 60, once to 110 
> (15-minute average over all CPUs). Even after the job of removing a day's 
> worth of radar data (x days back) was moved to a bash script. The scours 
> would start stacking (per Karen's definition) and I even created a bash 
> script to kill all scour jobs every 3 hours.
> 
> Now, with zfs, the load average rarely rises above 6 and the amount of data 
> coming in just about equals the amount of old data we remove every day. The 
> scour jobs have not done any stacking. 
> 
> Donna
> The Academy
> Texas A&M University
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Tom Yoksas <yoksas@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> 
> On 10/28/2015 10:02 AM, Michael Dross wrote:
> Is there one type of filesystem that is more efficient at handling
> these types file large volumes of finds/creations/deletions?
> 
> ie. EXT4, zfs.
> 
> We (Unidata Program Center) have had good luck with ZFS on our
> Solaris 10 motherlode-class machines.
> 
> It would be most interesting to hear other users experiences!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tom
> 
> On Oct 28, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Tom Yoksas <yoksas@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> re: how to efficiently scour LDM-created data products from disk
> 
> If one organizes one's data files into daily directories, the need to
> 'find' each file that should be scoured can be pared down to finding
> which directories+contents need to be scoured.  This does not, however,
> get around the fact that deleting large numbers of files
> (e.g., millions for NEXRAD Level III files kept on disk for long
> periods of time) is a _very_ costly endeavor.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tom
> 
> On 10/28/2015 09:47 AM, Gerry Creager - NOAA Affiliate wrote:
> How often to you run your scour command? We've exercised scour pretty
> hard and were able to watch it keep up, if it were run frequently.
> There's a one-time penalty, if you've been running it, say, daily or
> less frequently, but if you run it hourly, it should keep up.
> 
> gerry
> 
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Steve Emmerson <emmerson@xxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emmerson@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     LDMers,
> 
>     On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Donna Cote <d-cote@xxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:d-cote@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>         I would like to ask for a more io-friendly scour utility.
> 
> 
>     It's on my list (see <https://github.com/Unidata/LDM/issues/27>.
>     Can't say when I'll get around to it, though.
> 
>     Regards,
>     Steve Emmerson
> 
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