Re: [ldm-users] 20200423: Re: Efficiency of splitting pqacts

  • To: "Herzmann, Daryl E [AGRON]" <akrherz@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ldm-users] 20200423: Re: Efficiency of splitting pqacts
  • From: Mike Zuranski <zuranski.wx@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 15:01:51 -0500
Thanks Daryl, that's some great info.  Splitting up radar like that (albeit
L3 instead of L2) is one of the things on my todo list; I might borrow your
method with sym links to make that happen.

-Mike

======================
Mike Zuranski
Meteorology Support Analyst
College of DuPage - Nexlab
Weather.cod.edu <http://weather.cod.edu/>
======================


On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 2:37 PM Herzmann, Daryl E [AGRON] <
akrherz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Well Howdy,
>
> I am sure Unidata will correct my ignorance / incorrect details, but my
> understanding is that an individual pqact process can only do 32 "things"
> at one time, or there's 32 slots available for work.
>
> Now, the above depends on the action.  If you run `PIPE -close`, the slot
> can be used for another product even with the PIPEd process still
> running...  This type of action can lead LDM to DOSing the server it is on
> as it will fire off as many PIPE'd processes that it can.  You old timers,
> like me, will recall the lock file fun Chiz wrote into the GIF generation
> script of NIDS data for this reason.
>
> If you are doing just FILE actions without a `-close`, there is some
> benefit to spreading out the pqact.conf file into multiple files to keep
> each pqact roughly touching 32 files each.  For example with level2 data,
> dividing the radars into chunks like so:
>
> exec    "pqact -p BZIP2/K[A-D] -f CRAFT /local/ldm/etc/pqact-craft.conf"
> exec    "pqact -p BZIP2/K[E-H] -f CRAFT /local/ldm/etc/pqact-craft2.conf"
> exec    "pqact -p BZIP2/K[I-K] -f CRAFT /local/ldm/etc/pqact-craft3.conf"
> exec    "pqact -p BZIP2/K[L-O] -f CRAFT /local/ldm/etc/pqact-craft4.conf"
> exec    "pqact -p BZIP2/K[P-R] -f CRAFT /local/ldm/etc/pqact-craft5.conf"
> exec    "pqact -p BZIP2/K[S-Z] -f CRAFT /local/ldm/etc/pqact-craft6.conf"
> exec    "pqact -p BZIP2/[A-J] -f CRAFT /local/ldm/etc/pqact-craft7.conf"
> exec    "pqact -p BZIP2/[L-Z] -f CRAFT /local/ldm/etc/pqact-craft8.conf"
>
> Behold, another caveat here.  While with the above, each pqact process has
> its own uniquely named file, this file can be the same file on the
> filesystem and managed with sym links.  They need to be unique to the pqact
> process so that pqact can write its `.state` file to a unique location.
>
> You should consider the processes being run, how long their lifetime is,
> and your server's capacity.   If you have a bunch of long running GEMPAK
> decoders that totals something less than 32 total, then just keep them in
> one file but perhaps isolate that pqact process to just those tasks.
>
> So hold tight until Unidata corrects my above as FUD :)
>
> daryl
>
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>
> ________________________________________
> From: ldm-users <ldm-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Tom
> Yoksas <yoksas@xxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 2:15 PM
> To: ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ldm-users] 20200423: Re:  Efficiency of splitting pqacts
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> On 4/23/20 12:39 PM, Mike Zuranski wrote:
> > I'm wondering if there is a difference in speed/efficiency of the LDM,
> > or in system resource allocation, between grouping all my pqact
> > statements in one file vs. splitting them up into different pqact
> > files.
>
> Since all actions in an LDM pattern-action file are processed
> sequentially, there is a benefit to distributing actions in multiple
> pattern-action files that are each processed by a separate 'pqact'
> instance.
>
> re:
> > Does LDM do anything differently or is it a wash either way?
>
> No, each 'pqact' instance will work through the list of actions in
> the pattern-action file that it works in sequence.  So, if one has
> a monolithic pattern-action file with, say 10K actions, it will take
> significantly longer than having 10 'pqact' instances operating
> on pattern-action files that each have 100 actions.
>
> re:
> > I vaguely remember this coming up at one point but I couldn't find any
> > documentation or old email threads about it.  I'm mostly just asking out
> > of curiosity, I don't have a specific problem that I'm trying to solve
> > or anything.  But if I were to redo my pqact organization I'm wondering
> > if there is a preferred methodology.
>
> The best rule of thumb is to have multiple 'pqact' instances operating
> on multiple pattern-action files when the list of actions to be
> performed is large, or when some of the actions are slow.  There is no
> "best practice" for, say, having only N actions in a pattern-action
> file since the speed that the actions will be performed is a function
> of how fast/slow each action is.  Sites invariably will need to do
> their own tuning to find the right balance of speed and use of
> resources (more 'pqact' instances will, of course, use more resources
> like CPU, RAM, etc.).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tom
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