Re: [ldm-users] 20220304: Re: Receipt of "duplicated" products over the IDD with some debugging string attached to the end of the product

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  • Subject: Re: [ldm-users] 20220304: Re: Receipt of "duplicated" products over the IDD with some debugging string attached to the end of the product
  • From: Gilbert Sebenste <gilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 13:23:42 -0600
Can it be sent across as an EXP feed locally?

Gilbert

> On Mar 4, 2022, at 1:17 PM, Tom Yoksas <yoksas@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gilbert, David, and LDM users,
> 
> The source of the "duplicate" products that Daryl and Mike Z were
> discussing was the NOAA Weather Wire (WxWire) feed that Fox13 TV is also
> ingesting on the same machine on which NOAAPort is being ingested.
> WxWire ingestion has been turned off temporarily, so the source of the
> duplicate products has disappeared.
> 
> We are evaluating what the best course of action is given that a
> product sent via WxWire can be different as far as the LDM is concerned
> (i.e., different MD5 signature) from the "same" product sent in
> NOAAPort.  Ugh!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tom
> 
>> On 3/4/22 11:58, Gilbert Sebenste wrote:
>> True, but they may have been doing additional testing related to this. When 
>> they did the testing last week, they had some significant issues…
>> Gilbert
>>>> On Mar 4, 2022, at 12:42 PM, Wojtowicz, David P Jr <davidw@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Changing the underlying network shouldn't cause duplicated products.  (For 
>>> example, the network equipment knows nothing about the data headers and 
>>> would have no possible way of producing the extra strings)
>>> 
>>> *From:* ldm-users <ldm-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> *On Behalf Of 
>>> *Gilbert Sebenste
>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 4, 2022 11:59 AM
>>> *To:* Mike Zuranski <zuranski.wx@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> *Cc:* ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* Re: [ldm-users] Receipt of "duplicated" products over the IDD 
>>> with some debugging string attached to the end of the product
>>> 
>>> NCEP was testing their network routers and related activities this morning.
>>> 
>>> NOUS42 KWNO 041141
>>> ADASDM
>>> 
>>> *SENIOR DUTY METEOROLOGIST NWS ALERT ADMINISTRATIVE MESSAGE*
>>> *NWS NCEP CENTRAL OPERATIONS COLLEGE PARK MD*
>>> *1141Z FRI MAR 04 2022*
>>> *
>>> ..SCHEDULED NCWCP NETWORK MAINTENANCE TODAY*
>>> 
>>> WHAT: NCO WILL BE PERFORMING A FAILOVER TEST ON THE ROUTERS
>>> LOCATED AT COLLEGE PARK/NCWCP.
>>> 
>>> WHEN: FRIDAY, MARCH 4, 2022 BETWEEN 1200Z AND 1400Z.
>>> 
>>> IMPACTS: WFOS/RFCS/RHQS/CWSUS/NWR/CENTERS/WCOSS-I&II MAY
>>> EXPERIENCE TWO BRIEF (3-5) MINUTES OUTAGE AT THE START AND END OF
>>> THE MAINTENANCE WINDOW WHILE TRAFFIC GETS AUTO REROUTED BACK AND
>>> FORTH BETWEEN PRIMARY AND SECONDARY PATHS DURING THIS FAILOVER
>>> TEST.
>>> 
>>> PUBLIC ACCESS TO NWS WEBSITES INCLUDING IDP AND NIDS WILL NOT BE
>>> IMPACTED.
>>> 
>>> LIDDICK/SDM/NCO/NCEP
>>> 
>>> Gilbert
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 11:18 AM Mike Zuranski <zuranski.wx@xxxxxxxxx 
>>>> <mailto:zuranski.wx@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>    I can confirm that double product looks the same for me, complete
>>>    with LOX-846094 at the end of the second.  I'm not sure which site
>>>    was feeding that at the time though.
>>> 
>>>    -Mike
>>> 
>>>    ======================
>>> 
>>>    Mike Zuranski
>>> 
>>>    Meteorology Support Analyst
>>> 
>>>    College of DuPage - Nexlab
>>> 
>>>    Weather.cod.edu
>>>    
>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/weather.cod.edu/__;!!DZ3fjg!o1bK4FJaMKZ5_t1qEkELlilHYevjZtBWwmCexGZCYVOlLAXVgqyWlw_XQSV1LFAZhg$>
>>> 
>>>    ======================
>>> 
>>>    On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 11:05 AM Herzmann, Daryl E [AGRON]
>>>    <akrherz@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:akrherz@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>        Greetings,
>>> 
>>>        Over the past couple of hours, I have noticed a problem with
>>>        product text over IDD including what appears to be a debug tag
>>>        at the end of the product.  For example:
>>> 
>>>        WWUS76 KLOX 041650
>>> 
>>>        Came at 2022-03-04T16:50:36Z with 2026 bytes and again at
>>>        2022-03-04T16:50:38Z at 2038 bytes.  The second product had
>>>        the following at the end of the text:
>>> 
>>>        &&
>>> 
>>>        $$
>>>         LOX-846094
>>> 
>>>        That "LOX-846094" appears to be some debugging string with the
>>>        transmission of the product?  Looking at the my IDD logging, I
>>>        see:
>>> 
>>>        wxengine4.fox.com
>>>        
>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/wxengine4.fox.com__;!!DZ3fjg!o1bK4FJaMKZ5_t1qEkELlilHYevjZtBWwmCexGZCYVOlLAXVgqyWlw_XQSVerSLGBg$>
>>> 
>>>        as the ingest source of this product.  Anybody know anything
>>>        about this?
>>> 
>>>        daryl
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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