Re: [ldm-users] [External] Re: [mcidas-x] Concerns about the future of UNIDATA

  • To: Stonie Cooper <cooper@xxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ldm-users] [External] Re: [mcidas-x] Concerns about the future of UNIDATA
  • From: "Sebenste, Gilbert" <sebensteg@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 21:54:13 +0000
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Stonie,

I am not lobbing grenades at those in the trenches. I’m just trying to find out 
what is going on in the trenches…and I would like to know the reasons why.

Gilbert

Gilbert Sebenste
Meteorology Support Analyst

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Subject: [External] Re: [mcidas-x] Concerns about the future of UNIDATA

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Development in LDM continues, but not in github.  That is for a lot of reasons, 
but lobbing grenades at those still in the trenches will get you next to 
nowhere.

Stonie Cooper, PhD
Software Engineer III
NSF Unidata Program Center
University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
I acknowledge that the land I live and work on is the traditional home of The 
Chahiksichahiks (Pawnee), The Umoⁿhoⁿ (Omaha), and The Jiwere (Otoe).


On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 4:04 PM Sebenste, Gilbert 
<sebensteg@xxxxxxx<mailto:sebensteg@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
Good day everyone,

With the recent loss of 3 extremely valuable UNIDATA staff members, I wanted to 
inquire UNIDATA concerning several disturbing trends that I have been seeing 
with the organization. And quite frankly, what I discovered is disconcerting.

Over the past several years, UNIDATA has been moving away from what it was 
funded to do, namely: provide weather data, software, and support to the 
University community for teaching, and also for research:
“Unidata is a diverse community of education and research institutions with the 
common goal of sharing geoscience data and the tools to access and visualize 
that data.” – https://www.unidata.ucar.edu/about

With  this stated goal, excellent software packages used to support the 
educational and research communities have either been retired. or development 
has stopped…with minimal input from the user community. These software packages 
include GEMPAK, McIDAS, LDM (which hasn’t been touched on GitHub since Steve 
Emmerson retired), as well as others. In fact, McIDAS was sunset without any 
announcement or input from universities.
When I brought these concerns to the Unidata User Committee chair, Victor 
Gensini, I found out that he had resigned nearly a month ago. This, again, was 
done without any announcement to the community. The User’s Committee is much 
more than an advisory board; it is one of shared governance. And the decisions 
made over the past several years have now culminated in an utter lack of 
transparency with the recent loss of staff. In a scientific community, the 
governing process must involve transparency to the highest extent possible to 
maintain integrity of the staff, community, services they provide, data, and 
success for end users.
This is already starting to have a profoundly negative effect at the College of 
DuPage, which prompted me to write this. Even though we are a community 
college, we believe in UNIDATA’s stated vision and have shared our data via our 
website to all. Our setup here shares the weather data as much as we are able. 
Without UNIDATA’s McIDAS, GEMPAK, WXP and other software packages, we will not 
be able to share this data with others; additionally, we will not be able to 
teach the next generation of students with adequate software tools in a time 
where interest in the atmospheric sciences is about to peak. As a result, we 
have started to migrate towards commercial solutions to fill in the gaps. In 
the first 20 years of UNIDATA, that would be unthinkable.
What is being supported? IDV is being built on a dying platform (Java), with 
apparently very few users, and one of the two AWIPS developers was one of the 
three people let go. What is left? Two of these staff members were the future 
of UNIDATA, and the other took care of critical systems and engagement with 
underserved communities. Who is doing that now? Nobody has answered these 
questions.
Complete transparency has been and continues to be absolutely critical to the 
success that highlighted UNIDATA’s efforts over many years. These decisions 
have been made in darkness. Where leadership has been required, silence has 
occurred. It should not have been left to a terminated employee to make that 
announcement on his own free will.
I am saying this with all sincerity because I believe that UNIDATA is going 
off-mission. I am speaking out like this because I am gravely concerned that 
UNIDATA has lost it’s way, delving into areas beyond what it was supposed to 
be, while failing to maintain and flourish what it’s mission statement demands. 
The end result has been the loss of critical software and support that we need, 
as an educational institution. And let’s be blunt here: if the 
https://weather.cod.edu<https://weather.cod.edu/> site went down, a lot of 
Universities who use us would be in trouble. We know, because we see the number 
of “hits” from them in our web logs. And, if the LDM isn’t maintained, 
especially with major NOAAport/SBN feed changes on the horizon, the very 
backbone of the NWS data feed is in jeopardy. If McIDAS isn’t maintained, our 
satellite imagery goes away. And despite requests for Canadian radar data and 
other datasets that can be helpful (several Canadian radars cover portions of 
the border states reasonably well), not a yes or a no has been spoken to me.

UNIDATA, as a DeSouza award winner, I beg that you turn back to what made you 
great: tried and true, as well as new software…data and software for all of us, 
and unquestionable, excellent support.
With respect,
Gilbert Sebenste
Meteorology Support Analyst

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