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Hi Ed, Here's a short list of features that HDF5 will have to provide in order to allow netCDF objects to be stored correctly: - Dimension Scales for dataspaces - Shared dimension scales and/or dataspaces for datasets Is there anything else that will be needed in HDF5 for netCDF support? Quincey Koziol HDF5 Development Team NCSA > Here's some more detail on what we expect netCDF 4 to be able to > do. Please let me know what you think... > > > * NetCDF File Format Compatability > > ** NetCDF 4 uses HDF5 as it's storage layer. > > ** NetCDF 4 can also create/read/modify files created with previous > versions of netCDF, using the original netCDF data format. > > ** If the user opens an old netCDF file, and attempts to modify it, > NetCDF 4 will stick with the (old) netCDF file format. New API > features (like bit-packing) won't work on these files. > > ** There will be a way for users to cause an old netCDF file to be > copied into the new HDF5 data format. > > ** NetCDF 4 can read files created with HDF5, but some features will be > inaccessible (rasters, for example). Certain group conventions may > be required for a HDF5 file to be accessible via netCDF. > > ** NetCDF 4 can't read HDF 4 files. > > ** NetCDF 4 has no knowledge of HDF-EOS. > > > > * NetCDF API Backward Compatibility > > ** Interface will be added to, but all existing function calls will > remain the same, so that programs written for netCDF 3.x will work > for netCDF 4.0 with a simple compile. > > ** By default, the netCDF 4 API creates HDF5 files. A renamed set of > functions allows access to the original 3.x netCDF functions, which > allow the users to create netCDF format files. > >From owner-netcdf-hdf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 09 2003 Jul -0600 11:35:41 Message-ID: <wrxel0z7gcy.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 09 Jul 2003 11:35:41 -0600 From: Edward Hartnett <ed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> In-Reply-To: <200307091726.h69HQwPE035773@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Quincey Koziol <koziol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: more on netCDF 4 compatibility requirements... Received: (from majordo@localhost) by unidata.ucar.edu (UCAR/Unidata) id h69HZp9F025670 for netcdf-hdf-out; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:35:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rodney.unidata.ucar.edu (rodney.unidata.ucar.edu [128.117.140.88]) by unidata.ucar.edu (UCAR/Unidata) with ESMTP id h69HZlLd025636 for <netcdf-hdf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:35:47 -0600 (MDT) Organization: UCAR/Unidata Keywords: 200307091735.h69HZlLd025636 Received: (from ed@localhost) by rodney.unidata.ucar.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h69HZfZ19582; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:35:41 -0600 Cc: netcdf-hdf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx References: <200307091726.h69HQwPE035773@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-netcdf-hdf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Precedence: bulk Quincey Koziol <koziol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > Hi Ed, > Here's a short list of features that HDF5 will have to provide in > order to allow netCDF objects to be stored correctly: > - Dimension Scales for dataspaces > - Shared dimension scales and/or dataspaces for datasets > > Is there anything else that will be needed in HDF5 for netCDF support? I sure don't know the answer to that one yet! Ed >From owner-netcdf-hdf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 09 2003 Jul -0600 11:38:14 Message-ID: <wrx8yr77g8p.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 09 Jul 2003 11:38:14 -0600 From: Edward Hartnett <ed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> In-Reply-To: <200307091726.h69HQwPE035773@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: netcdf-hdf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: netcdf 4 web page, with updated feature list... Received: (from majordo@localhost) by unidata.ucar.edu (UCAR/Unidata) id h69HcFpH028499 for netcdf-hdf-out; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:38:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rodney.unidata.ucar.edu (rodney.unidata.ucar.edu [128.117.140.88]) by unidata.ucar.edu (UCAR/Unidata) with ESMTP id h69HcFLd028476 for <netcdf-hdf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:38:15 -0600 (MDT) Organization: UCAR/Unidata Keywords: 200307091738.h69HcFLd028476 Received: (from ed@localhost) by rodney.unidata.ucar.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h69HcE819888; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:38:14 -0600 Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-netcdf-hdf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Precedence: bulk Howdy again! Russ had a bunch of suggestions for the netcdf-4 feature list, which have all been incorporated into the document. It's now also posted on a web server, so that we can all see it more easily. Take a look at http://dev.unidata.ucar.edu/content/software/netcdf-4/index.html Thanks, Ed >From owner-netcdf-hdf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 09 2003 Jul -0600 14:13:18 Message-ID: <wrxadbnwja9.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 09 Jul 2003 14:13:18 -0600 From: Edward Hartnett <ed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> In-Reply-To: <wrx8yr77g8p.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: netcdf-hdf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: netcdf 4 web page, with updated feature list... Received: (from majordo@localhost) by unidata.ucar.edu (UCAR/Unidata) id h69KDKl4021438 for netcdf-hdf-out; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:13:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rodney.unidata.ucar.edu (rodney.unidata.ucar.edu [128.117.140.88]) by unidata.ucar.edu (UCAR/Unidata) with ESMTP id h69KDILd021398 for <netcdf-hdf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:13:18 -0600 (MDT) Organization: UCAR/Unidata Keywords: 200307092013.h69KDILd021398 Received: (from ed@localhost) by rodney.unidata.ucar.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h69KDIE30516; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:13:18 -0600 References: <wrx8yr77g8p.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-netcdf-hdf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Precedence: bulk Edward Hartnett <ed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Woops, I gave out a URL that will only work within Unidata. For those who are elsewhere, here's the URL to use: http://my.unidata.ucar.edu/content/software/netcdf-4/index.html Thanks, Ed
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