Re: [netcdf-java] [netcdfgroup] NetCDF jars=>Maven Central Repos?

Thanks John, I'll take a look at and see if we can help in terms of the ant 
build stuff necessary to get this going - see my other email for the 
administrative stuff (and some ant stuff) on moving this forward as well.

Thanks!

Cheers,
Chris


On 4/27/10 2:35 PM, "John Caron" <caron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Chris:

We havent really got our act together on the external svn yet, so its a bit 
messy.

generally you check everything from:

http://svn.unidata.ucar.edu/repos/thredds/trunk/ 
<http://svn.unidata.ucar.edu/repos/thredds/trunk/cdm/>  to {local}/thredds

http://svn.unidata.ucar.edu/repos/common/java/trunk/ to {local}/unidataCommon

the java-netcdf build is in {local}/thredds/cdm/build.xml

its possible to get the grib source and opendap source, but i think the ant 
build will use the jar files in

{local}/thredds/lib/**

which i think is the right thing to do for the moment. we are going to move the 
grib source under thredds, so next round we can incorporate that. im not yet 
sure of opendap - for now assume its independent.

we might see what contortions your patch brings and try to clean up our act 
some.

thanks



On 4/26/2010 7:46 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
Re: [netcdfgroup] NetCDF jars=>Maven Central Repos? (copying 
tika-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx so that we can get some dev help in Tika-land)

Hi John,

Thanks for the information - we have a number of experienced developers over in 
Tika-ville that likely can help provide a patch to your ant build scripts to 
upload via Ant (and likely Ivy) to the Maven Central repos. Jukka Zitting is 
one of the masters of Maven Central and of Maven in general - Jukka, do you 
know how to use Ant, with e.g., Ivy, to help out the NetCDF-java'ers?

Thanks for the info too on the RandomAccessFile notion in netCDF. I found it 
out while trying to process it in Tika, so ended up working around it via the 
Tika interface and loading the stream into memory first. Jukka is working on 
TIKA-153 [1] that builds a TikaInputStream to handle these types of situations 
and provide a stream based interface around situations like this :)

Thanks and we will be in touch: can you point us to your SVN and to your ant 
build script so we know how to contribute a patch for you guys?

Thanks!

Cheers,
Chris


On 4/26/10 5:58 PM, "John Caron" <caron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Hi Chris:

Im guessing you actually want the netcdf-java libraries ( I have cross posted 
to netcdf-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx which is the correct email group for that). We 
unfortunately dont use Maven and dont have any expertise in it. We have had 
some contributed POM files by users. We would be willing to upload jar files 
automaticallly if theres a simple way to do that (add to our ant build?). Do we 
have to build with maven to do so? Of course, the complication comes from the 
dependencies.

>From your Jira entry, it seems theres some question about files vs streams. 
>netcdf is a random access file format. The java library does handle streams, 
>but only by loading it into memory, as apparently youve discovered. If you are 
>only interested in the metadata from netcdf-3 formatted files, all of the 
>metadata is in the front of the file, and its usually quite small, so one 
>could optimize that. For HDF5/netcdf4 the metadata is usually scattered around 
>the file, so theres no easy way currently to optimize that. netcdf-java 
>handles a lot of file formats, but all are assumed to be random access.

John Caron

On 4/26/2010 2:21 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:

Re: NetCDF jars=>Maven Central Repos? Hi Folks,

I never heard back regarding this message. Any thoughts?

Thanks!

Cheers,
Chris


On 4/12/10 8:53 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <chris.a.mattmann@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:



Hi there NetCDF'ers,

We've been working [1] on integrating NetCDF support into Apache Tika [2].
Tika uses Maven2 as its build tool, and I was having trouble finding a copy
of the NetCDF jars in the Maven Central repos. Would you guys be willing to
upload/publish the NetCDF jars into Maven Central so that we could integrate
them into Apache Tika? Right now, I've worked around this problem by using
the following external NetCDF repo [3], but as Jukka Zitting informed me on
the Tika mailing lists, per current Maven policies, it's bad practice to
reference external repositories in POMs meant to be released to Maven
Central [4]. It looks like you guys had some discussions about this before
[5], but it's unclear if a consensus was reached.

Please let me know, your help would be appreciated!

Cheers,
Chris


[1] http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TIKA-400

[2] http://lucene.apache.org/tika/

[3] http://bit.ly/bkOXEi

[4] http://bit.ly/aIYD38

[5] http://bit.ly/bkI9ma

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Email: Chris.Mattmann@xxxxxxxxxxxx
WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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