Re: [netcdf-java] Troubles having different Time dimension names on different forecasts

Hi List,
Thanks John for your feedbacks on gribCollections.
I question I have on this topic is:
once configuring a NetCDF Dataset on top of a ncx3 file built on top of a
GribCollection, is it possible to somehow "query" the index to know which
underlying gribs are involved by a specific range? (As an instance: which
files have data for to time=T0?)

Cheers,
Daniele


On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:30 PM, John Caron <caron@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Danielle:
>
> Because GRIB are so complex, NcML cannot be used to aggregate.
>
> Have a look at
>
>
> http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/thredds/current/tds/reference/collections/GribCollections.html
>
> John
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:46 AM, Daniele Romagnoli <
> daniele.romagnoli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi list.
>> Sorry for bothering you again. (I know how much can be annoying receiving
>> "PING" from the same user about same Topic within a mailing list since I
>> also contribute to some open source projects where people frequently repeat
>> asks for help to devs which are basically volunteers).
>>
>> Did you have any chance to take a look to my latest question?
>> No rush on this since I'll be in vacation next week. I just would like to
>> know if somebody has any feedback or idea on that.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Daniele
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Daniele Romagnoli <
>> daniele.romagnoli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi John,
>>> I'm here again.
>>> Is there any way by java code to open a NetCDFDataset on top of a folder
>>> containing multiple GRIB files?
>>> The past week I tried setting up an NCML to do the union of multiple
>>> GRIBs by doing aggregation on time dimension but opening back that NCML
>>> with ToolsUI I didn't see all the available time.
>>>
>>> Please, let me know.
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Daniele
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Daniele Romagnoli <
>>> daniele.romagnoli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi John.
>>>> Thanks for your reply.
>>>>
>>>> Please, read below.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:51 AM, John Caron <caron@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Daniele:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you open the files individually, then there is no guarentee of the
>>>>> time dimension name. Simply ask each variable what dimension name it uses.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The problem I have is that I'm programmatically insert time values into
>>>> a DB where the Table's columns match the dimension names, during first
>>>> files scan. (1 Table for each NetCDF Variable).
>>>> I will think a bit more on it, in order to understand if I can map them
>>>> to a generic "time" in my DB although my code associates table columns to
>>>> dimension names when doing the backward search (from DB to dataset).
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any pointer to that part of the thredds code which is
>>>> setting these time dimension names?
>>>> If not, no problem: I have a local copy of the thredds code and I'll
>>>> look for that by myself.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Daniele
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Daniele Romagnoli <
>>>>> daniele.romagnoli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>>> I'm dealing with some forecasts of HRRR and I have a couple of
>>>>>> questions.
>>>>>> ftp://ftp.ncep.noaa.gov/pub/data/nccf/nonoperational/com/hrrr/prod
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm creating a DB and I'm cataloging 2D subslices of a 4D Variable
>>>>>> within tables containing for each variable, the filename, the bbox, the
>>>>>> depth and the time validity for that record.
>>>>>> When more forecasts are available, I will add more entries in the
>>>>>> tables.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have noticed that different forecasts of the same model report
>>>>>> different time dimension names.
>>>>>> As an instance, if you download
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hrrr.t01z.wrfsfcf00.grib2
>>>>>> hrrr.t01z.wrfsfcf01.grib2
>>>>>> hrrr.t01z.wrfsfcf02.grib2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you will notice this (I'm reporting a reduced part of info to point
>>>>>> out my question. Please take a look at the colors):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hrrr.t01z.wrfsfcf00.grib2
>>>>>>   dimensions:
>>>>>>     x = 1799;
>>>>>>     y = 1059;
>>>>>>     time = 1;
>>>>>> float Categorical_freezing_rain_surface(time =1, y=1059, x=1799);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hrrr.t01z.wrfsfcf01.grib2
>>>>>>   dimensions:
>>>>>>     x = 1799;
>>>>>>     y = 1059;
>>>>>>     time = 1;
>>>>>>     time1 = 1;
>>>>>> float Categorical_freezing_rain_surface(time =1, y=1059, x=1799);
>>>>>> float
>>>>>> Total_column_integrated_graupel_entire_atmosphere_single_layer_1_Hour_Maximum(
>>>>>> time1=1, y=1059, x=1799);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hrrr.t01z.wrfsfcf02.grib2
>>>>>>   dimensions:
>>>>>>     x = 1799;
>>>>>>     y = 1059;
>>>>>>     time = 1;
>>>>>>     time1 = 2;
>>>>>>     time2 = 1;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> float Categorical_freezing_rain_surface(time2=1, y=1059, x=1799);
>>>>>> float
>>>>>> Total_column_integrated_graupel_entire_atmosphere_single_layer_1_Hour_Maximum(
>>>>>> time=1, y=1059, x=1799);
>>>>>> float Total_precipitation_surface_Mixed_intervals_Accumulation(time1=2,
>>>>>> y=1059, x=1799);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you may notice, the same variables have different time dimension
>>>>>> names across different forecasts (see blue, red, green colors).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there any chance to have them using same dimension name across
>>>>>> different datasets?
>>>>>> Any EnhancementSet to be used, or java property to be set?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think about having time dimension names behave the same
>>>>>> way across multiple datasets?
>>>>>> As an instance, by reserving suffixes in relation to the type of
>>>>>> time...
>>>>>> Don't know... something like "time" for simple time values,
>>>>>> "time1"/"time2" for hourly maximum, accumulations, ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm wondering if the way suffixes are added ("1","2") simply depends
>>>>>> on the scan order or there is a specification which mandates this 
>>>>>> numbering
>>>>>> order which I'm unaware of.
>>>>>> Please. let me know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>> Daniele
>>>>>>
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>> 55054  Massarosa (LU)
>> Italy
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55054  Massarosa (LU)
Italy
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