Tim,
You just said that your original ASCII file, plate.10000, is 2.2 Mbytes and
contains 40000 lines. This works out to an AVERAGE line length of 55
characters. However, in the sample ncdump you are allowing 87 characters
per line. This is a large increase in the amount of allocated space,
actually 58% more. This probably explains the majority of the difference
between your ASCII and Netcdf versions.
Is it possible that your ASCII source data has varying length lines?
Netcdf character arrays require fixed length lines, unless you add the
complication of line delimiters or index arrays.
Did you or some program chose 87 as the MAXIMUM line length? If so, then
the majority of the discrepancy is the storage of extra padding characters
(blanks or nulls) to pad each data line out to 87 characters.
The simplest solution for this is probably to just go ahead and enable
Netcdf-4 compression. Compression of long runs of padding characters
should be particularly efficient in Netcdf-4. This could be combined with
Chris Barker's suggestion to experiment with chunk sizes.
--Dave
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Timothy Stitt <Timothy.Stitt.9@xxxxxx>
wrote:
>
> Thanks for the reply Rob.
>
> You were correct in suspecting I was using the classic format, which I was
> able to identify with your ncdump command. I then checked how to use the
> NETCDF-4 format instead and made the change to my write routine. I¹ve now
> got my NC file in NETCDF-4 format but I¹m still seeing the 2X file storage
> increase compared to my original ASCII file. Can you see any other
> problems with my file structure based on the ncdump command below?
>
> netcdf plate {
> dimensions:
> Record_Lines = 4 ;
> Line_Symbols = 87 ;
> Record_Number = UNLIMITED ; // (11474 currently)
> variables:
> char Record(Record_Number, Record_Lines, Line_Symbols) ;
> Record:_Storage = "chunked" ;
> Record:_ChunkSizes = 1, 4, 87 ;
>
> // global attributes:
> :_Format = "netCDF-4" ;
> }
>
> The files sizes are as follows:
>
> 2.2M May 13 16:03 plate.10000 (original ASCII file with 4*10000 lines -
> 10000 records, 4 lines per record)
> 4.5M May 20 12:38 plate.nc
>
> Thanks in advance for your help,
>
> Tim.
>
>
> On 5/20/14, 11:43 AM, "Rob Latham" <robl@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >On 05/19/2014 09:52 AM, Timothy Stitt wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I¹ve been trying to convert a large (40GB) ASCII text file (composed of
> >> multiple records of 4 line ASCII strings about 90 characters long) into
> >> NetCDF format. My plan was to rewrite the original serial code to use
> >> parallel NetCDF to have many MPI processes concurrently read records
and
> >> process them in parallel.
> >>
> >> I was able to write some code to convert the ASCII records into
> >> [unlimited][4][90] NetCDF NC_CHAR arrays, which I was able to read
> >> concurrently via parallel NetCDF routines. My question is related to
the
> >> size of the converted NetCDF file.
> >>
> >> I notice that the converted NetCDF file is always double the size of
the
> >> ASCII file whereas I was hoping for it be to much reduced. I was
> >> therefore wondering if this is expected or is more due to my bad
> >> representation in NetCDF of the ASCII records? I am using
> >> nc_put_vara_text() to write my records. Maybe I need to introduce
> >> compression that I¹m not doing already?
> >
> >Are you using the classic file format or the NetCDF-4 file format?
> >
> >Can you provide an ncdump -h of the new file?
> >
> >==rob
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance for any advice you can provide.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Tim.
