Re: [noaaport] [ldm-users] Changes to METAR data over SBN

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would cover them, yes. As for a master station...one to use would be at 
https://weather.ral.ucar.edu/surface .</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div 
dir="ltr">Gilbert Sebenste</div><div dir="ltr">Consulting 
Meteorologist</div><div dir="ltr">AllisonHouse, LLC</div><div 
dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 22, 2024, at 1:05 PM, Weber, Jim 
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Just to double check…I 
believe this entry has everything covered.&nbsp; Would I be correct in 
that?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">WMO&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
^S[AP].... .... ([0-3][0-9])([0-2][0-9])<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Also, while we are on this 
topic, does anyone know where there might be a master list of METAR station 
identifiers to provide the station name, city, and hopefully a 
lat/lon?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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 style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> ldm-users 
&lt;ldm-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gilbert Sebenste via ldm-users<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 21, 2024 6:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike Zuranski &lt;zuranski.wx@xxxxxxxxx&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> LDM &lt;ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;; NOAAPORT 
&lt;noaaport@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ldm-users] Changes to METAR data over 
SBN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This should also be the direct feed from the FAA, as that 
is what they use.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Not only will this decrease METAR latency by several 
minutes for some domestic METARs, but this will also allow for new METARs that 
the FAA sends to be available immediately after activation.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But note that this applies to KWBC METARS. Military 
observations on KAWN will still need to have to be accounted for. I would just 
grab anything SA* or SP* for WMO header capture, and then you likely don't have 
to worry about any changes
 in the future.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Gilbert<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Oct 21, 2024, at 1:39<span 
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"> </span>PM, Mike Zuranski 
&lt;<a href="mailto:zuranski.wx@xxxxxxxxx";>zuranski.wx@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt; 
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Howdy all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I just saw this come across and given its significance I 
wanted to draw attention to it here.&nbsp; Seems that in December the process 
AND product headers for transmitting METAR and SPECIals will change.&nbsp; 
Depending on your REQUESTS and PQACTS
 this could be impactful.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Subject: 
Addition of SAUS99 and SPUS99 Text Products to<br>
Satellite Broadcast Network (SBN) and Removal of the SAUS70, 
80</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">and 90 
Counterparts on or about December 11, 2024</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">The NWS 
National Centers for Environmental Prediction (NCEP)<br>
Central Operations (NCO) creates routine collectives of<br>
observational METAR data in SAUS70 KWBC, SAUS80 KWBC, SAUS90<br>
KWBC and their counterparts for Special observations SPUS70,<br>
SPUS80 and SPUS90.&nbsp; These collectives require manual<br>
intervention to add METAR stations to them.&nbsp; These are then<br>
distributed over the SBN.&nbsp; Another product, SAUS99 KWBC, and the<br>
Special observation counterpart SPUS99 KWBC contain any METAR<br>
observation received every minute.&nbsp; Delivering SAUS99 and SPUS99<br>
over the SBN rather than the aforementioned collectives will<br>
provide more observational data and more timely data to users of<br>
the SBN.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">The 
replacement with SAUS99 and SPUS99 is expected to occur on<br>
or about 1200 Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) December 11,<br>
2024.&nbsp; If a Critical Weather Day has been issued, this change<br>
will be postponed until 1200 UTC on the next non-Critical</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Weather 
Day.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Users 
that are receiving and utilizing SAUS70 KWBC, SPUS70 KWBC,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">SAUS80 
KWBC, SPUS80 KWBC, SAUS90 KWBC or SPUS90 KWBC must ensure</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">they can 
also receive SAUS99 KWBC and SPUS99 KWBC.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a 
href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.weather.gov/media/notification/pdf_2023_24/scn24-99_add_saus99_to_sbn.pdf__;!!PxibshUo2Yr_Ta5B!zJrqu0Ootm-nbvY4YhVTLAymMbvzZNdPGDVp8oowROeF1Z413Gva3BncRgPfPTnaFvru14Hdpzd9hz7CggP88tUBNw$";>https://www.weather.gov/media/notification/pdf_2023_24/scn24-99_add_saus99_to_sbn.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Mike<br clear="all">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">- Mike 
Zuranski</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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