Dear Gurus, I cannot stand adding my opinion to this topic. I suggest we approach the question carefully and look around before fixing this problem locally. Quick fire-fighting work always turns out to be painful. I have been working around metafile and data base formats defined on many conceptual levels of computer graphics. As I have found, most of the data formats have serious problems with implicit coordinate definition. The issue of storage of regularly gridded data is present everywhere in visualization; and it has not been soved, not even much addressed. Scientic databases, like -so far- NetCDF and HDF simply omitted the problem. On the level of 3D graphics systems PHIGS, GKS-3D, Dore, do not support implicit coordinate definition. The situation is a little bit better in 2D: PostScript and the character encoding of CGM support "incremental coordinate mode." Instead of specifying the whole coordinate for each element in a list of coordinates, you specify only the increment (or decrement) from the previous element of the list. It is more, then nothing, anyway. Harry Jentner said he would not like to have assumptions. Me either. But netCDF already does have one. It is assumed all data are given over rectangular grid. (I am speaking about three dimension for simplicity. In higher dimensions the problem is analogous.) Distances between every two gridlines along a dimension are not necessarily equal. But the quadrliaterals were garanteed rectangular.) What Harry suggests is a way to indicate if the given grid in one dimension (that may happen to be TIME) is equally spaced. But what about the other functions? What if a dimension is logarithmical or derived with any other function? And further, data points are not necessarily given over a rectangular grid. The grid could be just genarally quadrilateral, or may be triangular as often is. Or what about a general polygonal grid? Will we introduce more and more assumptions? What we need is to think over the whole issue, introduce a CONCEPT instead of AD-HOC attribute or whatever solutions. I'd be be glad to take part in this work any time. Gabor Fichtinger Scientific Visualization Group, Center for High Performance Computing The University of Texas System Balcones Research Center, 1.154 CMS 10100 Burnet Road, Austin, TX, 78758-4497 Ph. : (512) 471 2409 Ph. : 1-800-262-2472/2409 (toll free) Fax : (512) 471 2445 Email: gabor@chpc.utexas.edu __o __o -\<, -\<, __________O / O ___________O / O