Re: [data-curation] [External] Location of KTAH METAR site?

  • To: "Sebenste, Gilbert" <sebensteg@xxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [data-curation] [External] Location of KTAH METAR site?
  • From: Michael Graf - NOAA Federal <michael.graf@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:02:53 -0400
I believe WMSCR has a dedicated list of users they provide US ASOS/AWOS
etc. Airlines what have you. But it's for domestic US purposes. The NWSTG
gets that info as well. But then creates new bulletins and distros those to
the world under SAUS21-25 KWBC. 21 is Eastern, 22 is Central, 23 is
Souther, 24 is the West, and 25 is Alaska and the Pacific. These are a
limited data set of US METAR (Only 4 letter Idents) getting routed to the
world. These are locations with a TAF. That's how in theory it's supposed
to work.

Mike

On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 12:46 PM Sebenste, Gilbert <sebensteg@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hey Kevin,
>
>
> I snarf from:
>
>
> https://tgftp.nws.noaa.gov/data/raw/sa/saus90.kwbc..txt
>
>
>
> https://tgftp.nws.noaa.gov/data/raw/sa/saus99.kwbc..txt
>
>
> https://tgftp.nws.noaa.gov/data/raw/sa/saus11.kawn..txt
>
>
>
> As for question two, many AWOS-3 sites are not connection to NADIN, due to
> cost…which is where the METARs all go into the FAA,
>
> and then get spewed out to the world via WMSCR. NWS has that feed, as does
> the Aviation Weather Center.
>
> I just scrape off the tgftp site and when I note new sites that aren’t
> coming across NOAAport, I ask NCO and Data Management to add them. That
> usually takes a week or so to do.
>
>
>
> Gilbert Sebenste
>
> Meteorology Support Analyst
>
>
>
> *From:* data-curation <data-curation-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> *On Behalf
> Of *Tyle, Kevin R
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 3, 2024 11:04 AM
> *To:* data-curation <data-curation@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Subject:* Re: [data-curation] [External] Location of KTAH METAR site?
>
>
>
> Hi Gilbert and Boris,
>
>
>
> This is all very interesting, thanks for sharing! A couple of questions:
>
>
>
>    1. Gilbert, in what directory on ftpprd are the METAR observations?
>    2. Boris/Gilbert, theoretically would any of the sites listed on
>    https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/weather/asos be eligible for inclusion
>    into the NOAAport stream simply be emailing a request to NCO? I see several
>    sites in NY State that I know have been around for a while yet have never
>    seen them on NOAAport (e.g. K1B1 and K5B2, both AWOS3).
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
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> *From:* data-curation <data-curation-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> *On Behalf
> Of *Boris A. Konon
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 3, 2024 5:21 AM
> *To:* Sebenste, Gilbert <sebensteg@xxxxxxx>
> *Cc:* data-curation <data-curation@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Subject:* Re: [data-curation] [External] Location of KTAH METAR site?
>
>
>
> Often, the first place new AWOS sites will show up is here.  The GOMEX
> platforms
>
> will be found under LA.  KTAH is here.
>
> https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/weather/asos
>
>
>
> Any code that begins with "K" is located in the CONUS.  The exception are
> "KQ" sites,
>
> which are military ASOS deployed as needed and often temporary in any one
> location.
>
>
>
> Boris
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 10:55 AM Sebenste, Gilbert <sebensteg@xxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> Welllll, howdy howdy, Daryl!
>
> This is a new AWOS site in the Gulf of Mexico. I saw this pop up on the
> WMSCR feed a few weeks ago, and requested it and two other new sites to be
> added to NOAAport. Unfortunately, they couldn't add it before the hurricane
> hit.
>
> Anyway, here it is:
>
> KTAH - Green Canyon 641 Oil Platform, Louisiana
>
> Lat/Lon: 27.330000, -90.710000
>
> Elev: 65 meters
>
> Gilbert Sebenste
> Meteorology Support Analyst
> New METAR sniffer
> College of DuPage
>
>
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> Herzmann, Daryl E [AGRON] via data-curation
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>
> Well Howdy,
>
> My METAR ingest noticed the addition of KTAH, found in this
> truncated-by-me collective
>
> SAUS70 KWBC 021218 RRE
> METAR
> KTAH 021215Z AUTO 06017G23KT 030V090 10SM FEW032 28/21 A2990 RMK
>      A01=
>
> Strangely, the only hit on google for this site is here:
>
> https://simfly.io/marketplace/salome-airport-2/details
>
> This site is not found in the most recent FAA AWOS database
>
>
> https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flight_info/aeronav/aero_data/NASR_Subscription/
>
> Anybody know what is up with this identifier?
>
> daryl
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