Re: [data-curation] [External] Location of KTAH METAR site?

  • To: "Tyle, Kevin R" <ktyle@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [data-curation] [External] Location of KTAH METAR site?
  • From: "Boris A. Konon" <trwplusa@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2024 01:55:28 -0400
AWOS sites added to NADIN and then WMSCR are dependent on the owner
of the AWOS, which can be the airport, the city/town it is in, or the
state.
What type of AWOS is installed (AWOS-A, AV, 1, 2, 3, 3P, 3PT) is up to
the owner, and only AWOS-3 and above can be added to NADIN.  The
communication costs to get the site's METARs routed to NADIN for all
to see are sold separately.  I believe when any AWOS is installed,
the company's that sell the equipment try to sell the NADIN service,
but it is up to the AWOS purchaser.  Some sites get NADIN service
as soon as they are commissioned, some years after their commissioning,
and some after a few decades still have no NADIN service.

Just about all AWOS installed in the last 30 yr or so are non-Federal.
Federally-owned (FAA) AWOS were installed starting in 1989 and
done by the mid-90s.  All FAA AWOS are on NADIN I think.

Boris

On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 12:04 PM Tyle, Kevin R <ktyle@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Gilbert and Boris,
>
>
>
> This is all very interesting, thanks for sharing! A couple of questions:
>
>
>
>    1. Gilbert, in what directory on ftpprd are the METAR observations?
>    2. Boris/Gilbert, theoretically would any of the sites listed on
>    https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/weather/asos be eligible for inclusion
>    into the NOAAport stream simply be emailing a request to NCO? I see several
>    sites in NY State that I know have been around for a while yet have never
>    seen them on NOAAport (e.g. K1B1 and K5B2, both AWOS3).
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Kevin
>
>
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> *From:* data-curation <data-curation-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> *On Behalf
> Of *Boris A. Konon
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 3, 2024 5:21 AM
> *To:* Sebenste, Gilbert <sebensteg@xxxxxxx>
> *Cc:* data-curation <data-curation@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Subject:* Re: [data-curation] [External] Location of KTAH METAR site?
>
>
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> Often, the first place new AWOS sites will show up is here.  The GOMEX
> platforms
>
> will be found under LA.  KTAH is here.
>
> https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/weather/asos
>
>
>
> Any code that begins with "K" is located in the CONUS.  The exception are
> "KQ" sites,
>
> which are military ASOS deployed as needed and often temporary in any one
> location.
>
>
>
> Boris
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 10:55 AM Sebenste, Gilbert <sebensteg@xxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> Welllll, howdy howdy, Daryl!
>
> This is a new AWOS site in the Gulf of Mexico. I saw this pop up on the
> WMSCR feed a few weeks ago, and requested it and two other new sites to be
> added to NOAAport. Unfortunately, they couldn't add it before the hurricane
> hit.
>
> Anyway, here it is:
>
> KTAH - Green Canyon 641 Oil Platform, Louisiana
>
> Lat/Lon: 27.330000, -90.710000
>
> Elev: 65 meters
>
> Gilbert Sebenste
> Meteorology Support Analyst
> New METAR sniffer
> College of DuPage
>
>
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> Herzmann, Daryl E [AGRON] via data-curation
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> Well Howdy,
>
> My METAR ingest noticed the addition of KTAH, found in this
> truncated-by-me collective
>
> SAUS70 KWBC 021218 RRE
> METAR
> KTAH 021215Z AUTO 06017G23KT 030V090 10SM FEW032 28/21 A2990 RMK
>      A01=
>
> Strangely, the only hit on google for this site is here:
>
> https://simfly.io/marketplace/salome-airport-2/details
>
> This site is not found in the most recent FAA AWOS database
>
>
> https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flight_info/aeronav/aero_data/NASR_Subscription/
>
> Anybody know what is up with this identifier?
>
> daryl
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