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Hi all, Based on valuable feedback to my earlier message, I have submitted a placeholder session. I believe we can update it if needed, but I want to get something in before the deadline. What I submitted is pretty general, so please consider submitting additional sessions if you think more specific topic areas are needed. I'll include my draft which turns out to be session IN19 below.. http://submissions3.agu.org/specialsession/sessionlist.asp?sectionid=6 Many thanks for the quick responses. -- Ben ========================= Fostering Multi-disciplinary Research via Interoperable Data Systems Based on International Geospatial Standards for Earth and Space Sciences Within the general realm of the Earth sciences, research and education initiatives are increasingly focusing on the challenging topics and the boundaries of the traditional disciplines. Stovepipe data systems have been an impediment to such integrated studies in the geosciences. Hence standards-based interoperability among data systems greatly facilitates progress in these important multi-disciplinary research fields. As a consequence, several groups in the Earth and space sciences are implementing international open standards for discovery, access and processing of geospatial information. These standards provide for interoperability well tuned to the Earth and space sciences, because members of the same community developed the standards. This session will show some of the latest advances in implementing open standards for access to sensor data, processing of the data suitable for a specific decision or research context, and presentation of the information to the various communities ranging from researchers, policy makers and general public. Discussion by the session participants will result in additional feedback to the standards bodies (OGC, ISO, as well as the community standards groups in the individual disciplines) to further advance the standards applicability to Earth and space sciences. =============================================================== On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:15 PM, David Arctur<darctur@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Ben, have a look at the link George included for the EGU session details: > http://www.ogcnetwork.net/node/525 > > The EGU session was particularly significant from the breadth of geosciences > fields represented. However, I agree with your OGC+ perspective, and would > like to encourage ISO, CUAHSI and other community standards groups to submit > papers as well. If you've already got your title and description along the > lines you just mentioned, I'd like to suggest that David M, Stefano and I > co-convene this with you. > > How does that sound to David M and Stefano? > > best, > dka > -- > > > > > On Jun 12, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Ben Domenico wrote: > > Hi again, > > The question that comes up for me is whether we want multiple > standards-based interoperability sessions. My idea was to propose > one session that was more or less a combination of the two > descriptions I sent out in the original email of this thread. Many of > the ideas that have come up in the subsequent emails sound pretty > similar. (I don't recall the details of the EGU session description > offhand.) > > In terms of what I had in mind, one possible distinction would be that > what I would propose would not be confined to OGC standards but would > also embrace ISO and community standards such as the CUAHSI ODM, > Unidata netCDF CF, and OPeNDAP which originated in the oceans > community ... and so forth. But my tendency seems to be to combine > things rather than break them into parts. Bottom line for me is that, > if others are going to propose a general standards-based > interoperability session, that's great and I will participate in that > and will not propose a separate one. > > Let me know. > > -- Ben > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Maidment, David > R<maidment@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> David: >> >> >> >> I would be willing to be a co-convenor of a session on the application of >> OGC standards like the one that Stefano and George organized as a >> “splinter >> session” in Vienna. >> >> >> >> David >> >> >> >> >> >> From: David Arctur [mailto:darctur@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 1:29 PM >> To: George Percivall >> Cc: Ben Domenico; Maidment, David R; Stefano Nativi >> Subject: Re: AGU ESSI session submission deadline TODAY >> >> >> >> Thanks George. I've submitted IN14 for data fusion, but would like a >> co-convener for a session like the one on standards at EGU. Would any of >> you >> be interested? >> >> -- >> >> David Arctur >> >> +1(512)771-1434 >> >> Sent from my PDA >> >> >> >> On Jun 12, 2009, at 1:15 PM, George Percivall >> <gpercivall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Ben, all, >> >> >> >> David Arctur will be attending AGU for OGC this year. >> >> >> >> David is submitting two sessions propsoals: >> >> - Fusion session - similar to the one convened by Fox and Arctur last >> year. >> >> - Standards session - similar to the EGU session convened earlier this >> year >> by Nativi and Percivall >> >> http://www.ogcnetwork.net/node/525 >> >> >> >> He is traveling today and may respond a bit later. >> >> >> >> George >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 12, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Ben Domenico wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> It turns out today is the deadline for proposing sessions for the Fall >> AGU meeting. It will be important to have at least one ESSI (Earth >> and Space Science Informatics) session along the lines of what has >> been done in the past. From the last two AGU meetings, I've dug out >> two session descriptions that could serve as a model. If I don't hear >> from anyone else soon, I'll put something together along these lines >> and submit it. >> >> http://www.agu.org/meetings/fm09/program/session_proposals.php >> >> But I encourage others to submit ESSI sessions as well. >> >> -- Ben >> >> ================================================ >> Building Interoperability Across the Geosciences >> >> >> There are a number of critical stumbling blocks to overcome in >> creating the geoinformatics component of the Cyberinfrastructure for >> the Sciences. These challenges include: agreement on common standards, >> vocabularies, and protocols; engagement in a vast number of >> distributed data resources; practices for recognition of and respect >> of intellectual property; a simple data discovery system with >> distributed and integrated catalogues; mechanisms to encourage >> development of web sevice tools for analysis; and business models for >> continuing maintenance and evolution of information. This session will >> showcase the national and international initiatives and partnerships >> that are successfully overcoming these challenges and starting to >> achieve interoperability across geoscience domains. These efforts >> include organized systems and networks such as the Geosciences >> Information Network,OneGeology, GeoSciNet,and the National >> Geoinformatics System, as well as use of standards such as GeoSciML, >> WaterML, OGC and a number of others. Presentations will discuss >> progress to date, philosophies, and solutions to problems in >> informatics and building interoperability. Examples will include the >> kinds of dynamic and powerful science capabilities that can be >> realized. >> >> Standards-Based Interoperability Among Tools and Data Services in the >> Earth Sciences >> >> >> Topics for this session include development of interoperable data >> access, analysis and display systems based on evolving international >> standards. These are embodied by a variety of efforts including: the >> specifications of the Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC) and ISO and >> community standards such as OPeNDAP, the netCDF Climate and Forecast >> Conventions, the standards adoption processes at NASA and NOAA, and >> the Observations Data Model of the hydrology community. Examples of >> concerted efforts to develop demonstrations of these interoperability >> technologies include: Geo-interface to Atmosphere, Land, Environment, >> Ocean; netCDF (GALEON); the Ocean Sciences Interoperability >> Experiment; and GEOSS Web Services Network (GWS). These initiatives >> are facilitating standards-based access to multi-dimensional Fluid >> Earth Science (mainly the atmospheric and ocean sciences) datasets by >> employing and influencing the evolution of the emerging standards such >> as Web Coverage Service (WCS), Web Feature Service (WFS), Catalog >> Services for the Web (CS-W), and the Sensor Web Enablement (SWE) suite >> which includes the Sensor Observation Service (SOS). Presentations and >> demonstrations for this session are encouraged for interoperability >> efforts in addition to those mentioned here. If possible, there will >> be a special electronic poster area set up for live, online >> demonstrations of these interoperability technologies. >> >> ================================================ >> >> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:01 PM, David Maidment<maidment@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> >> Ben: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> We should definitely do a session at Fall AGU on “Data Interoperability in >> >> the Geosciences using OGC Standards”. I went to several sessions on >> >> informatics at EGU Vienna and there was a lot of interesting stuff >> presented >> >> but the most interesting session was one that was not at first in the >> formal >> >> program – a “splinter session” that Stefano and George Percivall of OGC >> >> organized informally that had a series of presentations about use of OGC >> >> standards in various geosciences domains. The difference between this >> and >> >> the other informatics sessions was the session had an intellectual spine >> and >> >> a consistent methodology while what I heard in other sessions was a >> >> collection of neat stuff without a lot of common patterns. I have to say, >> >> though, that netCDF and THREDDS is a common pattern that is starting to >> >> emerge here in Europe. I was VERY impressed by the work presented by Jon >> >> Blower of the Reading e-Science Center about the use of THREDDS by the UK >> >> Met Office. Sounds like you have a great engagement with them. I am in >> >> Geneva with Ilya Zaslavsky now and will meet to today with people from the >> >> WMO about the OGC/WMO working group in hydrology. It’s a meet and greet >> >> session to get to know one another. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> David >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: bendomenico@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:bendomenico@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >> Ben >> >> Domenico >> >> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:01 PM >> >> To: David Maidment >> >> Cc: Stefano Nativi; George Percivall >> >> Subject: Re: Digital Earth >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi David, Stefano and George, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm pleased that the EGU sessions have gone well. A month or two ago I >> >> contacted the AGU about publishing ESSI presentations in an electronic >> form. >> >> There was interest and a few questions from their electronic journals >> >> person. But I have not heard back from them since I answered their >> >> questions. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This is a good reminder to me to pester them about it once more. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Wish I were there. Because the Europeans are so committed to standards, >> the >> >> EGU is a great meeting for such discussions. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- Ben >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 5:12 AM, David Maidment <maidment@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Stefano: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Your issue of Digital Earth is cool. It would be good to do something >> >> similar from this meeting. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for your leadership of EGU-ESSI. I was very enlightened by our >> >> session on OGC services yesterday. We should do something similar for AGU >> in >> >> San Francisco in December. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I agree that OGC standards are the way to go to achieve interoperability >> in >> >> the GeoSciences. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> David >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> David R. Maidment >> >> >> >> Director, Center for Research in Water Resources >> >> >> >> University of Texas >> >> >> >> Austin Tx 78712 >> >> >> >> Tel: (512) 471-0065 >> >> >> >> Email: maidment@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> George Percivall >> Open Geospatial Consortium >> http://www.opengeospatial.org/ >> E-mail: percivall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Voice: +1-301-560-6439 >> >> >> >> >> **************************************************************************** >> This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of >> addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, >> disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you >> are >> not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return >> email and delete this communication and destroy all copies. >> >> **************************************************************************** >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
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