Re: [galeon] AGU ESSI session submission deadline TODAY

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Ben,
Thanks for this. I wonder if there is any way to heighten the distinction between this session and IN15 (I'm one of the co-chairs there), copied below for info. Although the words are quite different a lot of the essence overlaps. Your focus is clearly more on standards, so that's suggestive.
Of course, this sort of thing is inevitable, so it won't bother me much if they go in as written.
By the way, we've been discussing how to create an actual discussion forum at AGU. So far as I know, there is no way to set up any such activity, short of a townhall or meeting at some other venue. I'd be interested in your feedback. 

Thanks for your thoughts, here's the IN15 item:
Strategies for Improved Marine and Synergistic Data Access and Interoperability
Mindful of the growing number of ecological research data systems, data management efforts and underlying ontologies, this special session will focus on solutions to, and strategies for, accessing marine and synergistic data across multiple collections, platforms, systems, and standards. The effective integration of data retrieved from distributed sources depends upon negotiated arrangements of science domain concepts, metadata frameworks, and community engagement. We will hear about arrangements of these components for managing field data and the lessons learned from different strategies. This session represents an opportunity for the marine and related data management communities to draw together our diverse data management experiences and learn from our collective research efforts and associated community developments. 

John


On Jun 12, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Ben Domenico wrote:


Hi all,

Based on valuable feedback to my earlier message, I have submitted a
placeholder session. I believe we can update it if needed, but I want
to get something in before the deadline.   What I submitted is pretty
general, so please consider submitting additional sessions if you
think more specific topic areas are needed.  I'll include my draft
which turns out to be session IN19 below..

http://submissions3.agu.org/specialsession/sessionlist.asp?sectionid=6

Many thanks for the quick responses.

-- Ben

=========================
Fostering Multi-disciplinary Research via Interoperable Data Systems
Based on International Geospatial Standards for Earth and Space
Sciences

Within the general realm of the Earth sciences, research and education
initiatives are increasingly focusing on the challenging topics and
the boundaries of the traditional disciplines.   Stovepipe data
systems have been an impediment to such integrated studies in the
geosciences.  Hence standards-based interoperability among data
systems greatly facilitates progress in these important
multi-disciplinary research fields.

As a consequence, several groups in the Earth and space sciences are
implementing international open standards for discovery, access and
processing of geospatial information.   These standards provide for
interoperability well tuned to the Earth and space sciences, because
members of the same community developed the standards.  This session
will show some of the latest advances in implementing open standards
for access to sensor data, processing of the data suitable for a
specific decision or research context, and presentation of the
information to the various communities ranging from researchers,
policy makers and general public.  Discussion by the session
participants will result in additional feedback to the standards
bodies (OGC, ISO, as well as the community standards groups in the
individual disciplines) to further advance the standards applicability
to Earth and space sciences.

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On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:15 PM, David Arctur<darctur@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote:
Ben, have a look at the link George included for the EGU session details: 
 http://www.ogcnetwork.net/node/525
The EGU session was particularly significant from the breadth of geosciences fields represented. However, I agree with your OGC+ perspective, and would like to encourage ISO, CUAHSI and other community standards groups to submit papers as well. If you've already got your title and description along the lines you just mentioned, I'd like to suggest that David M, Stefano and I 
co-convene this with you.

How does that sound to David M and Stefano?

best,
dka
--




On Jun 12, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Ben Domenico wrote:

Hi again,

The question that comes up for me is whether we want multiple
standards-based interoperability sessions.  My idea was to  propose
one session that was more or less a combination of the two
descriptions I sent out in the original email of this thread. Many of 
the ideas that have come up in the subsequent emails sound pretty
similar.  (I don't recall the details of the EGU session description
offhand.)
In terms of what I had in mind, one possible distinction would be that 
what I would propose would not be confined to OGC standards but would
also embrace ISO and community standards such as the CUAHSI ODM,
Unidata netCDF CF, and OPeNDAP which originated in the oceans
community ...  and so forth.  But my tendency seems to be to combine
things rather than break them into parts. Bottom line for me is that, 
if others are going to propose a general standards-based
interoperability session, that's great and I will participate in that
and will not propose a separate one.

Let me know.

-- Ben

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Maidment, David
R<maidment@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


David:
I would be willing to be a co-convenor of a session on the application of 
OGC standards like the one that Stefano and George organized as a
“splinter
session” in Vienna.



David





From: David Arctur [mailto:darctur@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 1:29 PM
To: George Percivall
Cc: Ben Domenico; Maidment, David R; Stefano Nativi
Subject: Re: AGU ESSI session submission deadline TODAY



Thanks George. I've submitted IN14 for data fusion, but would like a
co-convener for a session like the one on standards at EGU. Would any of 
you
be interested?

--

David Arctur

+1(512)771-1434

Sent from my PDA



On Jun 12, 2009, at 1:15 PM, George Percivall
<gpercivall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Ben, all,



David Arctur will be attending AGU for OGC this year.



David is submitting two sessions propsoals:
- Fusion session - similar to the one convened by Fox and Arctur last 
year.
- Standards session - similar to the EGU session convened earlier this 
year
by Nativi and Percivall

  http://www.ogcnetwork.net/node/525



He is traveling today and may respond a bit later.



George













On Jun 12, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Ben Domenico wrote:

Hello all,
It turns out today is the deadline for proposing sessions for the Fall 
AGU meeting.  It will be important to have at least one ESSI (Earth
and Space Science Informatics) session along the lines of what has
been done in the past.  From the last two AGU meetings, I've dug out
two session descriptions that could serve as a model. If I don't hear from anyone else soon, I'll put something together along these lines 
and submit it.

http://www.agu.org/meetings/fm09/program/session_proposals.php

But I encourage others to submit ESSI sessions as well.

-- Ben

================================================
Building Interoperability Across the Geosciences


There are a number of critical stumbling blocks to overcome in
creating the geoinformatics component of the Cyberinfrastructure for
the Sciences. These challenges include: agreement on common standards, 
vocabularies, and protocols; engagement in a vast number of
distributed data resources; practices for recognition of and respect
of intellectual property; a simple data discovery system with
distributed and integrated catalogues; mechanisms to encourage
development of web sevice tools for analysis; and business models for continuing maintenance and evolution of information. This session will 
showcase the national and international initiatives and partnerships
that are successfully overcoming these challenges and starting to
achieve interoperability across geoscience domains.  These efforts
include organized systems and networks such as the Geosciences
Information Network,OneGeology, GeoSciNet,and the National
Geoinformatics System, as well as use of standards such as GeoSciML,
WaterML, OGC and a number of others. Presentations will discuss
progress to date, philosophies, and solutions to problems in
informatics and building interoperability. Examples will include the 
kinds of dynamic and powerful science capabilities that can be
realized.
Standards-Based Interoperability Among Tools and Data Services in the 
Earth Sciences


Topics for this session include development of interoperable data
access, analysis and display systems based on evolving international
standards. These are embodied by a variety of efforts including: the 
specifications of the Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC) and ISO and
community standards such as OPeNDAP, the netCDF Climate and Forecast
Conventions, the standards adoption processes at NASA and NOAA, and
the Observations Data Model of the hydrology community.  Examples of
concerted efforts to develop demonstrations of these interoperability technologies include: Geo-interface to Atmosphere, Land, Environment, 
Ocean; netCDF (GALEON); the Ocean Sciences Interoperability
Experiment; and GEOSS Web Services Network (GWS).  These initiatives
are facilitating standards-based access to multi-dimensional Fluid
Earth Science (mainly the atmospheric and ocean sciences) datasets by employing and influencing the evolution of the emerging standards such 
as Web Coverage Service (WCS), Web Feature Service (WFS), Catalog
Services for the Web (CS-W), and the Sensor Web Enablement (SWE) suite which includes the Sensor Observation Service (SOS). Presentations and 
demonstrations for this session are encouraged for interoperability
efforts in addition to those mentioned here. If possible, there will 
be a special electronic poster area set up for live, online
demonstrations of these interoperability technologies.

================================================
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:01 PM, David Maidment<maidment@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > 
wrote:

Ben:
We should definitely do a session at Fall AGU on “Data Interoperability in
the Geosciences using OGC Standards”. I went to several sessions on 

informatics at EGU Vienna and there was a lot of interesting stuff
presented
but the most interesting session was one that was not at first in the 
formal
program – a “splinter session” that Stefano and George Percivall of OGC
organized informally that had a series of presentations about use of OGC
standards in various geosciences domains. The difference between this 
and
the other informatics sessions was the session had an intellectual spine 
and

a consistent methodology while what I heard in other sessions was a
collection of neat stuff without a lot of common patterns. I have to say,
though, that netCDF and THREDDS is a common pattern that is starting to
emerge here in Europe. I was VERY impressed by the work presented by Jon
Blower of the Reading e-Science Center about the use of THREDDS by the UK
Met Office. Sounds like you have a great engagement with them. I am in
Geneva with Ilya Zaslavsky now and will meet to today with people from the
WMO about the OGC/WMO working group in hydrology. It’s a meet and greet 

session to get to know one another.







David
From: bendomenico@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:bendomenico@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Ben

Domenico

Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:01 PM

To: David Maidment

Cc: Stefano Nativi; George Percivall

Subject: Re: Digital Earth







Hi David, Stefano and George,
I'm pleased that the EGU sessions have gone well. A month or two ago I
contacted the AGU about publishing ESSI presentations in an electronic 
form.
There was interest and a few questions from their electronic journals 

person.  But I have not heard back from them since I answered their

questions.







This is a good reminder to me to pester them about it once more.
Wish I were there. Because the Europeans are so committed to standards, 
the

EGU is a great meeting for such discussions.







-- Ben
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 5:12 AM, David Maidment <maidment@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > 

wrote:



Stefano:
Your issue of Digital Earth is cool. It would be good to do something 

similar from this meeting.
Thanks for your leadership of EGU-ESSI. I was very enlightened by our
session on OGC services yesterday. We should do something similar for AGU 
in

San Francisco in December.
I agree that OGC standards are the way to go to achieve interoperability 
in

the GeoSciences.







David











David R. Maidment



Director, Center for Research in Water Resources



University of Texas



Austin Tx 78712



Tel: (512) 471-0065



Email: maidment@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx













George Percivall
Open Geospatial Consortium
http://www.opengeospatial.org/
E-mail: percivall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Voice: +1-301-560-6439




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