Hi John... thanks for your reply.
I will probably go for a workaround to remap dimensions to fixed attributes .
Background info in case you are interested:
- We use an "ImageMosaic" which allows to expose a "single" store on top of
multiple NetCDF/GRIB files, datasets.
- We map different "common" dimensions of the underlying
variables/coverages/parameters to different columns of a DB index so you
can ask the DB "give me the air temperature for time = 2015-08-08T12:00:00z
and height = 30m". The mosaic will query the DB, look for the proper file
and setup the proper section on underlying NetCDF data based on the
time,height values.
- At time of data collecting we scan the variables as well as the
dimensions/coordinateAxis of a variable, from a prototype sample (let say
hrrr.t00z.sfc.f02.grib) to create the DB tables (let's say air_temperature)
and the related dimensions (let's say time1, height_above_ground)
Then, we "assume" all others samples of the same data provider/related to
the same model, has same data structures = same variables, same dimensions,
different values (obviously)
The problem I have encountered with complex grib files is that, due to the
underlying grib record structure, sometime time dimensions changes across
different files, although they refer to same variable.
So you may have:
gribfileA: temperature(time1, height), wind_hourly_maximum(time2, pressure)
gribfileB: temperature(time2, height), wind_hourly_maximum(time1,
pressure).
This make the DB based index not working anymore since when I get the
dimension name/coordinate axis from the variable to check which column of
the DB I have to populate, that column couldn't exist or have a different
name.
So I tried with the gribCollection approach by using a NetCDFDataset opened
over a ncx3 previously setup by invoking the following methods
FeatureCollectionConfig config = new FeatureCollectionConfig();
config.setFilter("/work/data/gribs/", ".*.grib2");
config.ptype = FeatureCollectionConfig.PartitionType.directory;
config.type = FeatureCollectionType.GRIB2;
config.collectionName = "collection";
GribCdmIndex.updateGribCollection(config, CollectionUpdateType.test,
logger);
Then I was using the "Best" Group to access what I need from that
NetCDFDataset.
There are cases where I want to get the original file associated to a
specific subselection so this is why I have asked the previous question.
At the end, I will always map time1,time2,time to simply "time" and
continue using the oldest way without using GribCollections.
Thanks again for your interest.
Best Regards,
Daniele
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 6:07 PM, John Caron <caron@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Daniele:
>
> Im not really sure what you want to do, and why.
>
> There is a non-public API to the ncx files, but better not to use if
> possible, as it can/will change, and is not documented / supported for
> external use.
>
> John
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Daniele Romagnoli <
> daniele.romagnoli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi List,
>> Thanks John for your feedbacks on gribCollections.
>> I question I have on this topic is:
>> once configuring a NetCDF Dataset on top of a ncx3 file built on top of a
>> GribCollection, is it possible to somehow "query" the index to know which
>> underlying gribs are involved by a specific range? (As an instance: which
>> files have data for to time=T0?)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Daniele
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:30 PM, John Caron <caron@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Danielle:
>>>
>>> Because GRIB are so complex, NcML cannot be used to aggregate.
>>>
>>> Have a look at
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/thredds/current/tds/reference/collections/GribCollections.html
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:46 AM, Daniele Romagnoli <
>>> daniele.romagnoli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi list.
>>>> Sorry for bothering you again. (I know how much can be annoying
>>>> receiving "PING" from the same user about same Topic within a mailing list
>>>> since I also contribute to some open source projects where people
>>>> frequently repeat asks for help to devs which are basically volunteers).
>>>>
>>>> Did you have any chance to take a look to my latest question?
>>>> No rush on this since I'll be in vacation next week. I just would like
>>>> to know if somebody has any feedback or idea on that.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Daniele
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Daniele Romagnoli <
>>>> daniele.romagnoli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>> I'm here again.
>>>>> Is there any way by java code to open a NetCDFDataset on top of a
>>>>> folder containing multiple GRIB files?
>>>>> The past week I tried setting up an NCML to do the union of multiple
>>>>> GRIBs by doing aggregation on time dimension but opening back that NCML
>>>>> with ToolsUI I didn't see all the available time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please, let me know.
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Daniele
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Daniele Romagnoli <
>>>>> daniele.romagnoli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi John.
>>>>>> Thanks for your reply.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please, read below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:51 AM, John Caron <caron@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Daniele:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you open the files individually, then there is no guarentee of
>>>>>>> the time dimension name. Simply ask each variable what dimension name it
>>>>>>> uses.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem I have is that I'm programmatically insert time values
>>>>>> into a DB where the Table's columns match the dimension names, during
>>>>>> first
>>>>>> files scan. (1 Table for each NetCDF Variable).
>>>>>> I will think a bit more on it, in order to understand if I can map
>>>>>> them to a generic "time" in my DB although my code associates table
>>>>>> columns
>>>>>> to dimension names when doing the backward search (from DB to dataset).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you have any pointer to that part of the thredds code which is
>>>>>> setting these time dimension names?
>>>>>> If not, no problem: I have a local copy of the thredds code and I'll
>>>>>> look for that by myself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>> Daniele
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Daniele Romagnoli <
>>>>>>> daniele.romagnoli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>>>>> I'm dealing with some forecasts of HRRR and I have a couple of
>>>>>>>> questions.
>>>>>>>> ftp://ftp.ncep.noaa.gov/pub/data/nccf/nonoperational/com/hrrr/prod
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm creating a DB and I'm cataloging 2D subslices of a 4D Variable
>>>>>>>> within tables containing for each variable, the filename, the bbox, the
>>>>>>>> depth and the time validity for that record.
>>>>>>>> When more forecasts are available, I will add more entries in the
>>>>>>>> tables.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have noticed that different forecasts of the same model report
>>>>>>>> different time dimension names.
>>>>>>>> As an instance, if you download
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hrrr.t01z.wrfsfcf00.grib2
>>>>>>>> hrrr.t01z.wrfsfcf01.grib2
>>>>>>>> hrrr.t01z.wrfsfcf02.grib2
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you will notice this (I'm reporting a reduced part of info to point
>>>>>>>> out my question. Please take a look at the colors):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hrrr.t01z.wrfsfcf00.grib2
>>>>>>>> dimensions:
>>>>>>>> x = 1799;
>>>>>>>> y = 1059;
>>>>>>>> time = 1;
>>>>>>>> float Categorical_freezing_rain_surface(time =1, y=1059, x=1799);
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hrrr.t01z.wrfsfcf01.grib2
>>>>>>>> dimensions:
>>>>>>>> x = 1799;
>>>>>>>> y = 1059;
>>>>>>>> time = 1;
>>>>>>>> time1 = 1;
>>>>>>>> float Categorical_freezing_rain_surface(time =1, y=1059, x=1799);
>>>>>>>> float
>>>>>>>> Total_column_integrated_graupel_entire_atmosphere_single_layer_1_Hour_Maximum(
>>>>>>>> time1=1, y=1059, x=1799);
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hrrr.t01z.wrfsfcf02.grib2
>>>>>>>> dimensions:
>>>>>>>> x = 1799;
>>>>>>>> y = 1059;
>>>>>>>> time = 1;
>>>>>>>> time1 = 2;
>>>>>>>> time2 = 1;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> float Categorical_freezing_rain_surface(time2=1, y=1059, x=1799);
>>>>>>>> float
>>>>>>>> Total_column_integrated_graupel_entire_atmosphere_single_layer_1_Hour_Maximum(
>>>>>>>> time=1, y=1059, x=1799);
>>>>>>>> float Total_precipitation_surface_Mixed_intervals_Accumulation(
>>>>>>>> time1=2, y=1059, x=1799);
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As you may notice, the same variables have different time dimension
>>>>>>>> names across different forecasts (see blue, red, green colors).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there any chance to have them using same dimension name across
>>>>>>>> different datasets?
>>>>>>>> Any EnhancementSet to be used, or java property to be set?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you think about having time dimension names behave the same
>>>>>>>> way across multiple datasets?
>>>>>>>> As an instance, by reserving suffixes in relation to the type of
>>>>>>>> time...
>>>>>>>> Don't know... something like "time" for simple time values,
>>>>>>>> "time1"/"time2" for hourly maximum, accumulations, ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm wondering if the way suffixes are added ("1","2") simply
>>>>>>>> depends on the scan order or there is a specification which mandates
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> numbering order which I'm unaware of.
>>>>>>>> Please. let me know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>> Daniele
>>>>>>>>
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