Re: [netcdfgroup] Bad file ??

Actually now that I think of it,  since you can read the file a better solution 
is to just create a new file with the proper attributes and then item by item 
copy the values ( i just checked that at least in Python you can read the 
values and they appear to be properly masked). A pain,  but once written should 
work for any similar fils from cmem.

-Roy

> On Oct 2, 2024, at 3:52 PM, Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal 
> <roy.mendelssohn@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> To edit right now I think a hex editor will work.  Even in a good text editor 
> FillValue shows up,  it is just not clear how to reset it without seeing the 
> hex..  But a hex editor should be able to get at it.
> 
> -Roy
> 
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2024, at 3:31 PM, Dave Allured - NOAA Affiliate via netcdfgroup 
>> <netcdfgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes in my opinion, this is worth issues in both the netcdf-c and 
>> netcdf-python libraries, but at low priority.  I think this is a relatively 
>> obscure case.  The hope is that if fixed in the libraries, it will avoid 
>> more debugging efforts by future users.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 3:10 PM Chris Barker <chris.barker@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 1:44 PM Dave Allured - NOAA Affiliate via netcdfgroup 
>> <netcdfgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> This file was probably written by a pre-2013 version of the netcdf-C library,
>> 
>> Ahh, that may explain it.
>> 
>> Modern libraries choke on the type mismatch, as seen here. 
>> ... 
>> However IMO, libraries should also support problem-free writes to such 
>> existing files.
>> 
>> Is this worth an issue on the netCDF C lib?
>> 
>> -CHB
>> 
>> 
>> It may be possible to "fix" files like this, by replacing or deleting the 
>> offending _FillValue attributes with lower level or capable software, such 
>> as the HDF5 library.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 1:58 PM Chris Barker via netcdfgroup 
>> <netcdfgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I was wondering what the NaNf meant :-)
>> 
>> But yeah, that's probably it -- now to track down whoever wrote this file -- 
>>  
>> But I do wonder what software allowed this?
>> 
>> -CHB
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 12:53 PM Benjamin Root <ben.v.root@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I think the issue is that the _FillValue of "NaN" is probably a float64 
>> while the variable's dtype is float32, which is probably what it means by a 
>> type mismatch. When I have a NaN FillValue for a float32 variable, it prints 
>> "NaNf"
>> 
>> ```
>> float sum_tp_mm(time, latitude, longitude) ;
>>   sum_tp_mm:_FillValue = NaNf ;
>> ```
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 12:05 PM Chris Barker via netcdfgroup 
>> <netcdfgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Thanks Roy, at least it's not just us, and that error did give me a hint, 
>> look at this from ncdump-ing the header:
>> 
>> float uo(time, depth, latitude, longitude) ;
>> string uo:units = "m s-1" ;
>> uo:_FillValue = NaN ;
>> string uo:standard_name = "eastward_sea_water_velocity" ;
>> string uo:long_name = "Eastward velocity" ;
>> 
>> There's no type for the uo:_FillValue attribute.
>> 
>> How in the world did that happen?
>> 
>> At least now I have a specific thing to point the file creators to.
>> 
>> -CHB
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 10:58 AM Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal 
>> <roy.mendelssohn@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I can reproduce the error.  I tried to copy the file using mccoy,  got the 
>> following:
>> 
>> nccopy cmems_mod_nws_phy_anfc_0.027deg-3D_P1D-m_1727700325546.nc test.nc
>> NetCDF: Not a valid data type or _FillValue type mismatch
>> Location: file ?; fcn ? line 1408
>> 
>> hope this helps.
>> 
>> -Roy
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2024, at 10:46 AM, Chris Barker via netcdfgroup 
>>> <netcdfgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a user unable to use a netcdf file with our code.
>>> 
>>> It turns out that the file works just fine when read, but if you try to 
>>> open it for writing, it chokes:
>>> 
>>> (this is the netCDF4 Python lib, version 1.6.5, which seems to be the 
>>> latest release)
>>> 
>>> I get:
>>> In [3]: 
>>> netCDF4.Dataset('cmems_mod_nws_phy_anfc_0.027deg-3D_P1D-m_1727700325546.nc',
>>>  'r+')
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> OSError                                   Traceback (most recent call last)
>>> Cell In[3], line 1
>>> ----> 1 
>>> netCDF4.Dataset('cmems_mod_nws_phy_anfc_0.027deg-3D_P1D-m_1727700325546.nc',
>>>  'r+')
>>> 
>>> File src/netCDF4/_netCDF4.pyx:2469, in netCDF4._netCDF4.Dataset.__init__()
>>> 
>>> File src/netCDF4/_netCDF4.pyx:2028, in netCDF4._netCDF4._ensure_nc_success()
>>> 
>>> OSError: [Errno -103] NetCDF: Can't write file: 
>>> 'cmems_mod_nws_phy_anfc_0.027deg-3D_P1D-m_1727700325546.nc'
>>> 
>>> Any idea how I can get more info as to what's wrong with it?
>>> 
>>> Again, we have had no problems reading the file.
>>> 
>>> Thanks, 
>>> - CHB
>>> 
>>> File is 1.2MB, (not huge by today's standards?) so I've attached it here if 
>>> anyone wants to take a look.
>>> -- 
>>> Christopher Barker, Ph.D.
>>> Oceanographer
>>> 
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>>> 
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NOAA/NMFS
Environmental Research Division
Southwest Fisheries Science Center
***Note new street address***
110 McAllister Way
Santa Cruz, CA 95060
Phone: (831)-420-3666
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