Re: [netcdfgroup] Bad file ??

OK -- issue posted:

https://github.com/Unidata/netcdf-c/issues/3038

I only did the C lib, 'cause it's showing up in C and python -- is Fortran
a different code base? or does it use the same C lib under hood?

As for how high priority it is -- that's not up to me -- not a high enough
priority for me to write a PR :-)

Thanks,

-CHB

-

On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 4:02 PM Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal via
netcdfgroup <netcdfgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Actually now that I think of it,  since you can read the file a better
> solution is to just create a new file with the proper attributes and then
> item by item copy the values ( i just checked that at least in Python you
> can read the values and they appear to be properly masked). A pain,  but
> once written should work for any similar fils from cmem.
>
> -Roy
>
> > On Oct 2, 2024, at 3:52 PM, Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal <
> roy.mendelssohn@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > To edit right now I think a hex editor will work.  Even in a good text
> editor FillValue shows up,  it is just not clear how to reset it without
> seeing the hex..  But a hex editor should be able to get at it.
> >
> > -Roy
> >
> >
> >> On Oct 2, 2024, at 3:31 PM, Dave Allured - NOAA Affiliate via
> netcdfgroup <netcdfgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes in my opinion, this is worth issues in both the netcdf-c and
> netcdf-python libraries, but at low priority.  I think this is a relatively
> obscure case.  The hope is that if fixed in the libraries, it will avoid
> more debugging efforts by future users.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 3:10 PM Chris Barker <chris.barker@xxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 1:44 PM Dave Allured - NOAA Affiliate via
> netcdfgroup <netcdfgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> This file was probably written by a pre-2013 version of the netcdf-C
> library,
> >>
> >> Ahh, that may explain it.
> >>
> >> Modern libraries choke on the type mismatch, as seen here.
> >> ...
> >> However IMO, libraries should also support problem-free writes to such
> existing files.
> >>
> >> Is this worth an issue on the netCDF C lib?
> >>
> >> -CHB
> >>
> >>
> >> It may be possible to "fix" files like this, by replacing or deleting
> the offending _FillValue attributes with lower level or capable software,
> such as the HDF5 library.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 1:58 PM Chris Barker via netcdfgroup <
> netcdfgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> I was wondering what the NaNf meant :-)
> >>
> >> But yeah, that's probably it -- now to track down whoever wrote this
> file --
> >> But I do wonder what software allowed this?
> >>
> >> -CHB
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 12:53 PM Benjamin Root <ben.v.root@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >> I think the issue is that the _FillValue of "NaN" is probably a float64
> while the variable's dtype is float32, which is probably what it means by a
> type mismatch. When I have a NaN FillValue for a float32 variable, it
> prints "NaNf"
> >>
> >> ```
> >> float sum_tp_mm(time, latitude, longitude) ;
> >>   sum_tp_mm:_FillValue = NaNf ;
> >> ```
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 12:05 PM Chris Barker via netcdfgroup <
> netcdfgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Thanks Roy, at least it's not just us, and that error did give me a
> hint, look at this from ncdump-ing the header:
> >>
> >> float uo(time, depth, latitude, longitude) ;
> >> string uo:units = "m s-1" ;
> >> uo:_FillValue = NaN ;
> >> string uo:standard_name = "eastward_sea_water_velocity" ;
> >> string uo:long_name = "Eastward velocity" ;
> >>
> >> There's no type for the uo:_FillValue attribute.
> >>
> >> How in the world did that happen?
> >>
> >> At least now I have a specific thing to point the file creators to.
> >>
> >> -CHB
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 10:58 AM Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal <
> roy.mendelssohn@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> I can reproduce the error.  I tried to copy the file using mccoy,  got
> the following:
> >>
> >> nccopy cmems_mod_nws_phy_anfc_0.027deg-3D_P1D-m_1727700325546.nc
> test.nc
> >> NetCDF: Not a valid data type or _FillValue type mismatch
> >> Location: file ?; fcn ? line 1408
> >>
> >> hope this helps.
> >>
> >> -Roy
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Oct 2, 2024, at 10:46 AM, Chris Barker via netcdfgroup <
> netcdfgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have a user unable to use a netcdf file with our code.
> >>>
> >>> It turns out that the file works just fine when read, but if you try
> to open it for writing, it chokes:
> >>>
> >>> (this is the netCDF4 Python lib, version 1.6.5, which seems to be the
> latest release)
> >>>
> >>> I get:
> >>> In [3]: netCDF4.Dataset('
> cmems_mod_nws_phy_anfc_0.027deg-3D_P1D-m_1727700325546.nc', 'r+')
> >>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> OSError                                   Traceback (most recent call
> last)
> >>> Cell In[3], line 1
> >>> ----> 1 netCDF4.Dataset('
> cmems_mod_nws_phy_anfc_0.027deg-3D_P1D-m_1727700325546.nc', 'r+')
> >>>
> >>> File src/netCDF4/_netCDF4.pyx:2469, in
> netCDF4._netCDF4.Dataset.__init__()
> >>>
> >>> File src/netCDF4/_netCDF4.pyx:2028, in
> netCDF4._netCDF4._ensure_nc_success()
> >>>
> >>> OSError: [Errno -103] NetCDF: Can't write file: '
> cmems_mod_nws_phy_anfc_0.027deg-3D_P1D-m_1727700325546.nc'
> >>>
> >>> Any idea how I can get more info as to what's wrong with it?
> >>>
> >>> Again, we have had no problems reading the file.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> - CHB
> >>>
> >>> File is 1.2MB, (not huge by today's standards?) so I've attached it
> here if anyone wants to take a look.
> >>> --
> >>> Christopher Barker, Ph.D.
> >>> Oceanographer
> >>>
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> Santa Cruz, CA 95060
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