Re: [noaaport] [ldm-users] [External] Re: GOES-16 missing tiles, and packets arriving out of sequence

  • To: Stonie Cooper <cooper@xxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [noaaport] [ldm-users] [External] Re: GOES-16 missing tiles, and packets arriving out of sequence
  • From: "Sebenste, Gilbert" <sebensteg@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 21:40:32 +0000
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Excellent. NCF confirms that their BNSF issues have been resolved, so all 
tickets on this issue are finally closing. Phew…and in fact, whereas the uplink 
used to be about 2-3 dB lower in signal strength, it’s now a half a dB better 
than the main uplink! With a smaller dish, we can’t ask for better, and all of 
the duplicate “keep alive” products will be stopped, if they haven’t already.
Hopefully, that’s the end of this long saga.

Gilbert Sebenste
Meteorology Support Analyst

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From: Stonie Cooper <cooper@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2024 11:08 AM
To: Sebenste, Gilbert <sebensteg@xxxxxxx>
Cc: Gilbert Sebenste <gilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Pete Pokrandt via ldm-users 
<ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; NOAAPORT <noaaport@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ldm-users] [External] Re: GOES-16 missing tiles, and packets 
arriving out of sequence

Gilbert - looks good so far (frames out of sequence would show as missing 
frames as the count would jump):

Ground Station #1, reset yesterday after talking to NOAA
      PID       TotalFrames     MissingFrames TotalProducts MissingProducts     
Retransmits
      NMC          13084773                 0       2165069               0     
      26055
     NMC2          37472243                 0       1714826               0     
      11434
     NOPT           1061621                 0        793799               0     
       3820
      NPP           1351354                 0          4895               0     
         36
      ADD          10659491                 0         71005               0     
          0
      EXP           9885367                 0         43946               0     
          0
      GRW           9406073                 0        129225               0     
          0
      GRE           9914814                 0        128195               0     
          0
     NWWS             87187                 0         29572               0     
          0

Prague
Ground Station #2, reset yesterday after talking to NOAA
      PID       TotalFrames     MissingFrames TotalProducts MissingProducts     
Retransmits
      NMC          13073381                 0       2162899               0     
      26054
     NMC2          37418946                 0       1700736               0     
      11434
     NOPT           1060838                 0        793016               0     
       3820
      NPP           1345224                 0          4889               0     
         34
      ADD          10659484                 5         71003               0     
          0
      EXP           9866764                 0         43910               0     
          0
      GRW           9386903                 0        129093               0     
          0
      GRE           9887961                 0        128055               0     
          0
     NWWS             87080                 0         29554               0     
          0
Stonie Cooper, PhD
Software Engineer III
NSF Unidata Program Center
University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
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On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 11:04 AM Sebenste, Gilbert 
<sebensteg@xxxxxxx<mailto:sebensteg@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
A follow-up to this. The duplicate product count is due to “keep alive” 
messages being sent across numerous NWS interfaces. This has or will be taken 
care of. Otherwise,
I haven’t lost any packets, nor do any appear out of order now. Stonie, can you 
verify this on your end?

Gilbert Sebenste
Meteorology Support Analyst
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From: Gilbert Sebenste 
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Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 5:47 PM
To: Sebenste, Gilbert <sebensteg@xxxxxxx<mailto:sebensteg@xxxxxxx>>
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Pete Pokrandt via ldm-users 
<ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: [External] Re: [ldm-users] GOES-16 missing tiles, and packets arriving 
out of sequence

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Follow-up: They switched to the BNCF at 14:15Z this morning. I i'm not seeing 
missing satellite images, but I am seeing a huge number of re-transmits and 
duplicates that the LDM is rejecting at AllisonHouse and COD. A contact I have 
at NCF emailed me to check on it, and I have given him log samples so he can 
see what's going on.

Gilbert

On Dec 9, 2024, at 4:11 PM, Sebenste, Gilbert 
<sebensteg@xxxxxxx<mailto:sebensteg@xxxxxxx>> wrote:

Good day everyone,

I am going to try to kill two birds with one stone here.

1. The GOES-16 missing tiles issue has been resolved when SBN/NOAAport is 
sending their uplink via the ANCF and primary uplink. This problem was due to 
multiple
issues, but they have gotten them taken care of on the NESDIS side of things. 
They had a nagging problem with channel 10, but that has been resolved (they 
had an issue at 14:10 with
a missing tile this morning, but NOAAport was down for 5 minutes while they 
made expected changes to the SBN this morning, and all channels had a glitch at 
that time).

2. Additionally, the out-of-sequence packet issue when they are on the ANCF has 
been resolved, and was determined to be an NCF issue.

But…

When they are on the BNCF, and transmitting from their alternate uplink site, 
they still experience out-of-sequence packets, numerous missing products
that have to be resent (we see a LOT of duplicate products here at COD when 
they are on the BNCF), missing satellite tiles…and even missing satellite 
images.

NCF is aware of the situation. Last week they switched to the BNCF for 3 hours, 
and the problems were still there, so they switched back to the primary. They 
are working on it.

Gilbert Sebenste
Meteorology Support Analyst

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